On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 04:13, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 11:43, Marek Peteraj wrote: > > > > You guys think i'm a fool, but i'm a believer. > > > > > > No, we think you're a zealot when really you're a sensitive muso. > > > Persist with Polite Positive Pressure please. > > > > We did this before. I've done this personally (korg). I know what i'm > > talking about. It's just begging, mortifying. Dear sir, now that I and > > perhaps 200 other customers have paid for your product, > > Too late. You don't have, at this point, any bargaining power. Exactly. Too late for me that i bought their @#$@#$ hardware. Nevertheless, it's never too late to sell that damn thing. Fernando, i *don't* *need* any bargaining power. > > > would you be so > > kind to at least provide some specs pleeeeasssse so that we can use it > > with our OS of choice? Thank you in advance, thank you. Repeat that 2 > > years, over and over again, each week perhaps. No. > > _Don't_ buy the hardware in the first place. That's not gonna work. It's not just me, think of lots of dualbooters that are trying to get their hw run under linux. > That's not gonna work. Yup. ;) > If > the company does not change its mind you are out of luck (as you have > found out). Find a product that is supported, buy and use it and tell > the other company about it. Heheh, nooooo :) > And even then it may not make a difference, > companies, like people, can be stubborn. Keep using other products. What if there are none? I want to use 8 analog i/o plus preamps with my laptop. For example. > > I'm sure you don't want to be forced to do things you don't want to do, > yet that's what you want to do to others. Fernando, statements like these are starting to offend me. Look, a customer-company relationship is DIFFERENT. And concerning hatefilled arrogant agressive horrible insults that are going nowhere. Iriver. 2 years ago, their forums were FILLED with posts along the lines: F**K YOU IRIVER. or NEVER EVER. Just because of Ogg Vorbis. Result? Almost every product can handle vorbis files. http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5968727553.html And this is not the only *thing* we *should* fight for. Try to search for linux sources on irivers website. Try to find them on Hartmanns website although they have been *told* to comply with GPL (let's not discuss this, look for thread called 'linux audio and breach of GPL' in the archives, it's very well explained there). So.... So a few guys here are unwillingly or even unknowingly defending the freedom of choice of companies that don't allow us to buy and/or use their products that we actually *want* to pay or already paid for. Guys, this is sick. I feel lost and lonely. And so i won't argue about that anymore. Period. Marek