On Sep 17, 2016 02:45, jonetsu@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:03:41 +0100 > Bill Purvis <bill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I tried using Yoshimi because it got frequent mentions on this list, > > and was available from the > > Mint repositories. I've since downloaded and compiled the latest > > version and think that it's a > > nice piece of work. If I ever get time to try out Zyn I may switch to > > preferring that, but for > > the moment, Yoshimi sound good, though I also use the Calf plugins as > > they support a decent > > General Midi patches. > > I compiled yoshimi because I thought zyn was no longer supported. So I > tried zyn yesterday. First of all I must say I do not program synth > sounds, at least not yet. I will adjust some parameters to fit a piece > but I'm certainly not creating sounds. I use synths as in using a > guitar. I am not making guitars, I am playing instead. > > Because of this, I found the sound selections provided with zyn quite > interesting. Especially the Italian sounds, but also others. The rest > I find is identical to yoshimi. So because of this broader choice of > sounds I will use zyn. > > It also seems they are working on a major 3.0 update, which brings the > next two comments. Yesterday I played zyn for about 45 minutes, > improvising. During those times I might record ideas as they > spontaneously happen, or I might just forget about then and enjoy the > spur of the moment. This means I run the synth inside a host, Bitwig > or Ardour (Mixbus 32C) (1). The keyboard can be any, this time it was a > Novation mini Launchkey. > > While playing it happened about 3 times that the audio output simply > vanished. I look at Ardour's screen, nothing happens, move the mouse > here and there, and then the sound comes back. In those times what I > described yesterday using yoshimi happened: when the audio came back, > the track's VU meter did not show anything while the master bus VU > showed the audio. Then it came back to normal, with all VUs showing > the audio being played. > > The other thing is that by 2-3 times I recorded some audio. This went > fine but, when the recording was stopped and I wanted to quickly get rid > of what was just recorded - as I always do using other synths in Ardour > - by pressing spacebar to stop the recording, then quickly pressing > Ctrl-z to get rid of the recorded region, followed by quickly hitting > the 'home' key to get back at the beginning, ready to record again, > Ardour stalled, for seconds. > > This means that zyn has the ability to stall Ardour, for any reason. > Which is not looking good. Such an application should not have the > capability to do this by any means. Having recently lost a complex > project in Bitwig due to Bitwig crashing, I am wary about this kind of > suspicious interaction. > > The last time the audio stopped was because Ardour has vanished from > CPU existence. > > All in all, zyn has a nice set of sounds, which makes me prefer it > but, it has problems at the systemic level which I hope will be > addressed in the upcoming major version. Strange thing though, to know > about this upcoming version one has to register on the web site. Why > isn't it public ? > > (1) When improvising, one nice feature I found was in Pianoteq's > ability to memorize the keys being played at all times, available for > recall if one wishes it. I see that zyn has a record option that > surely 'sounds' the same, although it has to be enabled and it asks for > a wav file which means it is not about recording MIDI data. Using MIDI > data would be lightweight. Yoshimi can record audio, too. I prefer to record MIDI in Rosegarden, tho. My experience was first with Zyn. Years ago. Zyn and RT didn't get along. Yoshimi did from the first time I used it. I have both installed. Yoshi can use Zyn's sounds. I think both need a UI overhaul. ;) David W. Jones gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
