On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 00:33:27 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: >On 06/05/2016 12:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 22:12:24 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: >>> great emotional impact on audience does not require great emotional >>> investment of performer/author. >> >> To decide to make music, because you like this kind of art is >> emotional. Why don't we play soccer, run amok, plant a tree at the >> time we decide to make music? We decide to make music, experienced a >> sunset, by love, > > why did you remove the part when I write about how the author might >not be human or intelligent in any sense at all (flower, sunset etc.). >That was the point. The sunset happens without intelligence or emotion at all and there's no doubt that it could cause emotions to somebody watching the sunset. >> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 22:16:53 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: >emotions only come up in systems that are complex enough (that >doesn't mean that all complex systems would have emotions, just that >the current AI is too simple to have emotions and that complex enough >AI *might* eventually have emotions). Emotions are required, they fulfil a "function" of life. they are the cause to protect ourself, to be kindhearted, human etc., nothing like that is required for a machine to exist. The sunset itself doesn't make music, even the flower, a living being doesn't make music. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user