On 06/04/2016 07:47 PM, jonetsu@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 21:21:10 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A machine has got no emotions at all, so
even if the machine would generate "good music", it would be faked
"good music", emotional fraud.
Google Magenta has read this and it makes it sad.
<oo>
FWIW, I think a true artificial intelligence would have
feelings/emotions, or something equivalent. And ones based on learning
could well learn those feelings from whatever they're learning from. In
Magenta's case, that would be the human music that it's been learning from.
Way back in the days of DOS, I remember a poetry-writing program that
did a fair job of writing basic modern poetry. Occasionally it was even
witty. It wasn't even close to an intelligence; it was driven by
stochastic rules the programmer had built into it, couldn't change the
rules, didn't take in any feedback, or even read its own output.
I think Google's Magenta is more like what you might get if you applied
Bayesian statistical techniques based on undirected self-analysis of
existing music, defined a "goal" for the system to achieve, and added
whatever generated music the system came up with as feedback into the
process. Perhaps along with feedback from entities outside the system
(humans). (As if I know anything about that.)
Anyway, music and emotions aren't necessary connected. I'm sure you've
all heard musicians who have remarkable technical mastery, but whose
playing can only be described as emotionally cold. I think you've
probably heard compositions, too, that could be described best as
intellectual exercises in making complex patterns, and also lack
emotional feeling.
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David W. Jones
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