On Tue, 17 May 2016, at 15:45, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 05/14/2016 05:35 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > <mailto:fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > > > > It only makes sense if you use different EQ on M and S (otherwise > > there's no point to convert to M/S in the first place). That's a > > case not covered by Ardour's strip structure, unless you have > > a stereo EQ plugin that has separate controls for the two channels. > > If not, you need to build the required path using additional mono > > bus strips. > > > > > > Not true in nightly builds. > > And with older versions of Ardour: > > 1. you have a stereo track already. disconnect it from the master. > 2. create a mono "M" bus- > 3. create a stereo "S" bus (yes, see below). > 4. route both outs of the stereo track to "M". > 5. route the L out of the stereo track to the first input of "S". > 6. route the R out of the stereo track to the second input of "S". > 7. invert the polarity of the second input of "S". > 8. now add your desired processing (usually EQ) to M and S (use mono > plugins for S despite the bus being stereo). > 9. set the M panner to center. > 10. set the S panner to center and maximum width. > 11. set the M and S faders to -6dB to begin with, adjust S level to > taste. > > But: M/S processing is really only useful when you are remastering a > stereo mix without access to the individual components, or maybe if you > are dealing with stereo mic recordings as part of a larger mix. > If you are creating a multitrack mix from individual channels, M/S buys > you exactly nothing that couldn't be done better and more precisely in > the individual channels. Disagree vehemently, M/S processing gives very natural control of the stereo image. I find that I use M/S EQing when I want to shape the stereo image subtly and M/S compression when I want to exaggerate it or make it more exciting. -w > > > -- > Jörn Nettingsmeier > Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 > > Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) > Tonmeister VDT > > http://stackingdwarves.net > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user