Re: soundcloud social environment

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On 2016-02-10 01:37, jonetsu@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I do not know much about soundcloud.  I know how to upload and I used
> to know how to enable download of files (I'll have to recheck what Set
> and/or others have written here about this :)
> 
> For instance, I do not know the context much.  How people scan for
> files, how people try to sell stuff like services or such (I have the
> impression that some attention a file may gather has nothing to do with
> the music).  
> 
> So on my latest upload someone has put a picture/comment on the track,
> to the effect that 'this is a nice picture where I would like to be'.
> When NOT logged into the account I clicked on this to see what it is
> about then I clicked on the picture itself.  At that point Konqueror
> froze completely and the desktop went a bit jerky.  So I killed -9
> konqueror.  I did not pursue any investigation as to why it happened.
> 
> Just to let you know.  It might turn out that everyone knows much more
> about soundcloud than I do and are aware of possible mishaps.
> 
> Cheers.

I'm not aware of any specific mishaps, but i don't have flash and it
works. Perhaps they still have flash as default?

However, i thinker a lot about distribution in our times.  A pro-account
on soundcloud cost the same as VPS on gandi. But the soundcloud account
wont let you express yourself as freely. Soundcloud and other services
alike are brands per-se, hence everytime one post a link to a service
like that, one is effectively promoting the brand, before oneslef. I
think all those services are the ones who have understood where the
music money is: in the musicians pocket. Thats why they want you so bad
to join them. At the end of the day, if you are doing promotion for
yourself, your URL is your own brand. And you probably want people to
connect to something where you have control over your terms and
condition, rather than to some 3rd part service and their hard to
understand ToS written in legal tongues.

I see these services fit, embedded in a post one your own website. As
standalone, since all of those services are prone to the myspace-death,
you don't want to spend time promoting that, effectively risking having
to start over the entire promotion process. You better promote the post
on your own website where the song is embeded, because if the service
dies, you just embed another one on the same page, and the URL is safe. :)

I see it like this: to reach out, be EVERYWHERE, and use ALL services.
BUT use them as satelites to your own URL. Not the other way around. It
makes me sad to find artist-pages being mere links to facebook and
whatnot. It's like they are not interested in creating album-art, or
giving me an experience they just want my demographics. And how hard can
it be to sell music on your website? Well, probably equally hard as to
sell files on the internet.

In the particular case of soundcloud, most users are also musicians. It
dosen't mean you cannot be discovered there, but it's good to keep in
mind that your profile share the same space as your porential
competitors. Although feedback on that particular service is generally
positive, in my experience.

TL;DR Be everywhere, use all services as links or audiohosts to/for your
OWN webpage.

Best of luck!

-- 
Set Sakrecoer
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