Re: CPU and mobo

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That's why I personally went with AMD. No HT, no onboard/onchip Video. And some other advantages, abeit the computing power per cycle and/or Watt is likely to be higher on probably any desktop intel.

But my link was just to let people who forgot about it check out what is available and choose the best compromise for them. Unfortunately AMD does no offer such a page, maybe for a reason, or I haven't found it so far. But still you might get no HT/VGA for a lower price there, with other compromises to make, for sure.


Am 19.12.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Len Ovens:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015, Ede Wolf wrote:

Am 19.12.2015 um 17:47 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:36:02 -0800 (PST), Len Ovens wrote:
Even graphics on the chip reduces performance in other areas.

But this seems to be standard for all new Intel and AMD.

Nope. Still plenty of choice for CPU and Mobos without onboard or
onchip graphics.

For Intel CPUs, you may select (and deselect) some of your desired
features on this well known site:


http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t

Discount the Xeon D, Pentium, i5 and Atom CPUs as they are BGA and meant
to come soldered to the board. (I think the Xeon D is meant to replace
the Atom userver CPUs) Also note that the ones that say "up to 3.* Ghz"
are showing the top Boost speed, not the running speed. (the i7)

Yes there are some CPUs with no GPU, but they are either BGA for
embedded apps, or high end. Unusable on most MB or too expensive. The
other thing is that deselecting hyperthreading, leaves only the slowest
things around. For example, the xeon E3 at 3ghz which is about the same
as my i5@3.2ghz with Graphics... meant for low power uses. The xeon E5
with 6 cores only runs at 1.9Ghz... also a low power version. When I was
looking into this stuff, I found that the MB that can handle even the
low end xeon (where the CPU price was close to the i5) was almost double
the price.

So yes, there are no-GPU CPUs around, but they are not very useful.

Thanks for the link though, I might keep that around.

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net

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