Message: 9
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 16:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Len Ovens <len@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Electrical violin?
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2015, Gabriel Nordeborn wrote:
> Does anyone have experience with electrical violins? I might be looking to buy
> one, although I don't know how to play the violin, but I'd really really like to
> have one and try to learn. But, for my girlfriend and neighbour's sake, I'm
> looking primarily at electrical ones.
I am not a player either, but do know that for some notes a lot of the
sound comes from the bridge and not the body. That is that an electric may
be quieter than an acoustic, but still much louder than an electric guitar
in the same way an electric guitar is louder (acoustically) than an
electric bass. Are there no big name music stores you can rent one from
for a week or so? or at least try one out in the store? Do you have any
friends that play?
I saw this one:
http://www.kkmusicstore.com/cecilio-cevn1bk-black-metallic-size-44-34-or-12-electric-silent-violin-in-style-1-case-lesson-book-w-dvd-bow-more-p-377.html?zenid=94d12e24dd5f843574fb1e5d7700acf2
Which (as the reviewer said) is cheap enough to be a throw away... that is
renting will eat up that much ($130) pretty quick. (and much cheaper than
a reasonable acoustic model)
I would compare a violin to a mandolin (which I do have), but I realize
that the violin is generally one note at a time so the trouble I have with
stumbling over my big fingers on the mandolin may be reduced. :)
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 21:21:29 -0700
From: David Christensen <dpchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Shielded electrical wiring for studio (or not)
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On 06/02/2015 06:32 AM, Glen MacArthur wrote:
> ... I've received a few mic
> shocks to the lips over the years when I used to run a vintage amp without
> a ground (it only had a ground lift toggle switch)... It didn't take me
> long to upgrade the wiring to a fully grounded cord.. :)..
I'm curious -- if an electric guitar amplifier has a two-conductor power
supply cord (with hot and neutral conductors only) and a "ground lift"
switch, what does the switch do?
Can you provide an example make and model that has a schematic available
on the web? For example:
http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/
David
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 22:19:48 -0700
From: Sean Bolton <sean@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Electrical violin?
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On Wed Jun 3 2015, Len Ovens wrote:
> I saw this one:
>
> http://www.kkmusicstore.com/cecilio-cevn1bk-black-metallic-size-44-34-or-12-electric-silent-violin-in-style-1-case-lesson-book-w-dvd-bow-more-p-377.html?zenid=94d12e24dd5f843574fb1e5d7700acf2
I have one of these, for the very reason that I can practice on it when
the wife and kid are in bed. It's not silent, but quite a bit quieter
than an acoustic violin with a practice mute.
What you should know if you're considering something like this: when I
received this, the strings were too high for it to be easily playable
(even the Chinese can't make a violin for this price and pay someone to
set it up properly.) I spent about three hours lowering the bridge and
reshaping the nut so it would play well. A professional luthier might
do the same for you for $60-100. I also spent $20 on a new Wittner
tailpiece so I'd have fine tuners that would turn easily. I then put
an old set of synthetic-core strings on it, as I prefer those to the
steel ones it came with. I'm now really happy with it as a
quiet-practice violin.
But I never plug it in. One reviewer on Amazon said it sounded like a
sewing machine, and as soon as I tried it (through the headphones or an
amp), I knew what they were talking about. Every time you change bow
direction, there's a thump, and the sound from the strings is kind of
thin, so as you're playing it's wheee-thump-thump-thump-thump.
So you get what you pay for. I'd expect to spend $600 or more for an
electric that arrives well set up and sounds halfway decent. Check out
the Yamaha Silent Violins--I though even the low-end model was fairly
decent.
HTH,
-Sean
Another lifelong violinist chiming in here :) I personally prefer my acoustic violin amplified by microphone and good soundman. However I have used a Barcus-Berry pickup for convenience and for those smaller gigs when playing in a combo and everyone brings their own amp.
I would try this one out, though: http://www.sharmusic.com/Instruments/Electric/Beginning-0--550/SHAR-Electric-Violin-Outfit.axd#sthash.0o7K1wR6.0BeX9eAF.dpbs
I have used Shar for years for violin gear; they specialize in bowed strings and even their low end instruments are playable.
-Best wishes
Peter
--
Peter Finnegan
http://finneganmusic.net
http://finneganmusic.net
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