~ Russell > On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 06:03:08PM +1100, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >> >> So you are saying that Behringer manufactured and released an entire range >> without testing *any* of them before they went out the door for ground >> loop issues at the board/design level? > > Happens all the time with cheap things. Some prototypes or early production > samples are tested, then the production process is adapted to large volume, > very probably everything is outsourced to a different sweatshop, and any > further quality control is supposed to be done by the user. > > As for Behringer, I still have to see the first bit of hardware that > does not have some problem. Everything that I've tested for the last > ten years or so has failed in some way. Emphasis on "cheap". Just to trail on from the general convo re: behringer. There is a reason it's so "affordable" and available. That said, I have some B gear in my arsenal for live and recording stuff. I figure if it's doing what I need it to, all is dandy. I simply consider it disposable gear to some degree. The $200 Euromixer 32-8-2 is absolutely handy as a live mixer. The preamps are even quiet enough to do some "b" level recording thru. Bit fragile and crispy sonically but they work. Do I expect it to perform like quality gear? Nope! Not ever! I've spent $200 on a cable.. Not telling you guys anything you don't know... Just sayin even crap gear has it's uses. :) R > >> I'm sure that someone from the LAC would be more than happy to test it for >> Fons and help get to the bottom of the problem. > > The thing is not on the list of assets I control, so forget about that. > >> From his description it sounded like the device was working pretty good >> with Linux in every other way. > > There is absolutely nothing in my original post that would even > faintly suggest that anything was working. Please stop suggesting > that I wrote things I did not write. You seem to have enough issues > with what I _did_ write anyway. > >> Just a bit of hum at the hardware level. > > Again, not 'just a bit' but tons of it. Reread my original post. > >> That is not bad considering that only a few years ago the idea of an >> affordable plug and play digital hardware mixer on Linux was just that, >> an idea. > > It's not a digital mixer, nor did I suggest it was. > > Meanwhile the thing has been used as an headphone amp since we > needed one. So I can confirm that channel 1 line input is working, > as is the master strip and the headphone output. That's all. > > Ciao, > > -- > FA > > A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. > It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris > and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
