On 03/31/2015 10:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:03:08 +1100 (EST), Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On Wed, April 1, 2015 5:46 am, Chris Caudle wrote:
That type of problem is indicative of poor circuit reference
conductor routing (colloquially called "ground loop" or "pin 1
problem") and can sometimes be improved with judicious use of added
wire or copper foil tape connections, but often requires a new and
proper PCB layout to correct. It is basically just sloppy layout
work by the design team.
So you are saying that Behringer manufactured and released an entire
range without testing *any* of them before they went out the door for
ground loop issues at the board/design level?
Regarding a chronically shortage of money I needed to buy Behringer
gear in the last ten or so years.
When I got a brandnew Behringer Modulizer Pro it caused loud ground
loops, so I sent it back. The repaired Behringer Modulizer doesn't
cause ground loops anymore, but ever since the data wheel jams.
The switching power supply of the Eurorack UB2442FX-Pro is assembled
with capacitors of too less voltage, so when they get broken I
replaced them with the correct capacitors, but the mixer more or less
can't be used anymore, because all switches don't work correctly
anymore. It purposely is designed to fail at the end of the guarantee
period.
The power supply of the ADA8000 gets too hot to mount it in a rack.
The X V-Amp LX1-X plastic case degas, it cause a disgusting smell.
The foot switches are noisy, not in the signal path, but any noise is
unwanted.
Regarding the operability of Behringer gear, a lot of it can't be used
on stage or under deadline pressure. It's tricky to use and sometimes
lettering is difficult to read.
My UCA202 just keeps chugging along. I use it for recording on stage.
Lettering is clear and easy to read (compare with note below about my
Yamaha keyboard).
One of our band's bassists' had a Behringer active DI box with assorted
amplifier modelling built in. We had a lot of trouble when we tried to
use it on stage. So that particular bit of equipment wasn't any good.
(Or maybe it's that bassist's curse. He has a knack for acquiring things
other than basses - he uses a very nice Rickenbacker - and invariably
picking something not very good. For example, he bought a used Variax
guitar (all kinds of hardware-based digital modelling built into it).
Yet it never works for more than a few minutes at a time before it
starts spitting out barrages of static, or intermittently cuts out.
Appears to be a flakey cable connection in the guitar. Unfortunately,
the Variax uses a weird cable of its own that powers the on-board
processor. Dropping and restoring power to the processor resets the
processor to its default setting ... so whatever previous setting you
were using is suddenly gone ... )
The product range does change very often, after a short time you can't
get it anymore, assumed you like and need one of the products. You even
can't get the free software from their homepage for this gear anymore
and support doesn't reply to a request.
I also own very old brand-name products. It is easy to use those
products, everything is readable and it seldom failed, most of it never
failed and at least some of the stomp boxes for stage usage are still
sold nowadays.
Yah, I have a brand name product here - Yamaha PSR-225GM. Not pro stuff,
but I must say that the colors they chose for the stenciling on this
keyboard make it impossible to read the labels under almost any kind of
lighting.
IMO there's only one reason to buy Behringer gear. The sound quality
often is good. It's cheap, so if you don't have much money and you are
aware about the drawbacks, it sometimes is better to get a crappy
device instead of no device.
That's why I got the UCA202. It was like $20 and works out of the box
with Linux. Sound quality is quite good.
I'm more inclined to suspect cheap production-quality for the Behringer
equipment the original poster mentioned, not fundamental design problems.
YMMV!
Agreed! We have a 12-port Presonus Firewire interface at church, it
worked fine until a newer Windows (Windows 7, IIRC) on our sound tech's
new laptop no longer provided a driver, and wouldn't allow the
manufacturer's Windows XP driver to install or run ... and I no longer
have a laptop with a Firewire port.
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