Re: hmm, updated to yoshimi 1.3.3 in debian sid repository AND

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On 03/25/2015 10:35 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:35:29 -1000
david <gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

it shows only one bank?

I go Instrument > Show banks, it shows me only a bank named "#42. yoshimi"

I go Instrument > Show instruments, it shows me a bank named "42.
yoshimi" - and that's it. Clicking arrow beside bank name does nothing.
Clicking Refresh banks changes nothing.


This is really strange.

I've just checked with a new build or 1.3.3 as published and it works perfectly.

The only slight irritation (now fixed) is that with a clean install you should
see "5. Arpeggios" in the dropdown window, but you have to select another
(from a list of 22!) for the list to be initialised. After that you should have
no problems.

Can you check that "/usr/local/share/yoshimi/banks" exists? I'm wondering if
they've left the banks out - I know there was some discussion about whether
they needed to support both the yoshi and zyn sets.

I checked. "/usr/local/share/yoshimi/banks" doesn't exist. My Aptosid Debian Sid setup has them here: "/usr/share/yoshimi/banks".

Try setting up some more root paths pointing to bank sets you know
you've got.

I just set up a root path to "/usr/local/share/yoshimi/banks". I see them now. Although I did somehow hit a point where I had set up and saved my new root, then went to check my root in another window - and my saved change didn't show there. Anyway, seems to be saved now.

I noticed that there's a root named "./" - what's that supposed to represent?

I do have a root setup to a yoshimi folder in my home directory. It only contains instruments, I think. Anyway, even though it's set up as one of my roots, when I make that one current and click the Instruments button, I get a new window "Root #2, Bank #5" showing no instruments whatever. Shouldn't it show the instruments in that folder? There are a bunch there.

I see I've got to poke around more to get used to this somewhat-biggish change.

Oh, so now I have to select a bank, click Make Current, and then I can
see the banks?

Form the root paths yes,

Hmm, seems to me that it would be nice if there was a single "bank" that
listed everything. Finding an instrument now means first figuring out
which bank it might be in, making that bank the current one, then
looking through that bank hoping it contains the instrument I'm looking
for ...

I think the other way was less cumbersome.

The problem with the old way (although it's still mostly there) is that you
have no idea which bank of which root you've got an instrument from. Also, two
totally different instruments could have exactly the same name and ID but be in
different banks, or roots. Similarly two banks could have the same name (but
completely different contents) in different roots. With the new method you
always know exactly where you're getting stuff from.

Finally, I've got into the habit of doing a right-button mouse click. It closes
one window as you open the other. Like that going up and down through roots,
banks and instruments is just about instantaneous.

That's a good idea.

I guess this means the full real name of the instrument is now root/bank/instrument? Makes sense.

A little bit of icing on the cake is that whenever you change roots it
automatically selects the first bank it can find, so if you have fave sounds
give them the lowest location in each bank :)

Haven't time now to see what impact this might have one instruments in
my Rosegarden studio setup, will have to see how that works out.

You should find this a lot nicer. Adding new banks or instruments will *not*
change the IDs of any existing ones.

Hurrah!

Thanks for the update, still the neatest sound maker in the collection!

Thanks :)

:)

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