Re: ground loop hell

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On Sun, 8 Feb 2015, jim wrote:

( hoping this helps someone(s) )

   Best, or at least good, practice suggests ensuring you use a
single earth ground. Practically this means using a single
receptacle with a power strip with enough receptacles for all
your equipment. This model forces separate ground paths for
each device to a single, common grounding point. (15 amps
at 110VAC is usually enough power for a band and PA and
recording equipment; think of the entire setup as a single
device comprising amps, mics, outboard equipment, mixers,
and so forth: all one frankenstein device.)

This is what we did. This building used to be the "Rod and Gun Club" in the area. It has been extended three times (that I can tell). There are some (more) renovations pending and so the original outlet the mixer used was boarded off at this point. So a cord was run to the next nearest outlet which is part of an anix (the roof is different which makes it obvious). This is from a different power box and (as is now clear) ground point. There is already a hole into the attic both above the mixer and above the stage where the snake runs through. The cord we were using for the mixer power was more than long enough and so we ran it through the same holes and plugged it into the same outlet as the stage gear. Ground loop gone. Nice clean sound :)

   Note that both balanced and unbalanced signal cables
connect to device frames, and therefore to earth ground.
   In the case of balanced cables, the frame connector (the
sleeve for phone plugs and pin 1 for Cannon XLR three-pin
cables) extends the Faraday shield of the frame to the sheath
conductor over the two signal wires.
   In the case of unbalanced cables, there is only one signal
wire (tip of a phone or RCA plug); the sheath conductor
provides a current path for both the signal return and the
earth ground.
   Balanced is better, if possible.

Most of the new snakes are ballanced both ways... this one is older.

   If you're using unbalanced cables, then your only fix is
to lift the ground of the power cables for all but one device
so that all the other devices must make their connections
toground through the sheath conductor of the signal cables.

Not going to happen. Using one outlet works fine in this case.

As part of the reno, (which includes new wiring to code BTW) I am hoping to put in tech power (isolated ground) for all audio. We may need more than one breaker, but the grounds will be shortest physical path I can get. (even if I have to run extra cables just for ground) It is nice to have some say when doing ground up stuff.


--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net

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