On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 16:17, Lee Revell wrote: > On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 18:50, John Check wrote: > > On Saturday 07 August 2004 06:30 pm, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > I recommend disabling all hardware video acceleration when tuning a > > > system for low latency (set Option "NoAccel" and commend out the "dri" > > > line). This will prevent X from interacting directly with your hardware > > > - it is complicated enough when only the kernel can access hardware. > > > Then, once you get that working, re-enable 2D acceleration, then DRI/3D > > > acceleration, if these do not cause problems. This will make it much > > > easier to get the problematic video drivers fixed. > > > > Definitely a good strategy, but nobody is going to take a system with no > > video acceleration seriously. > > Yes, of course this is not a long term solution. The point is to get > the buggy video drivers fixed (this is open source after all), in order > to do that we need to be able to say 'when i enable DRI with $FOO > driver, I get xruns, and these go away when I disable it'. Here's one case. 2.6.8rc2-mm2 + voluntary O3, lsm module, kernel config files derived from current default FC2's, very recent alsa CVS (post 1.0.6rc2), FC2, xorg, gnome desktop, P4 laptop 1.7GHz/512M with Radeon video chipset and Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller, kernel_preempt=1, voluntary_preempt=3, acpi=on (sound does not work with acpi=off), irq's left in default state[*] With "Option NoAccel" and an idle jack in an xterm (-p128 -n2), start glxgears, move the window around and there are no xruns (any size window). With acceleration enabled, start glxgears and with the default size move the window around, no xruns. Enlarging the window (this is on a 1600x1200 screen) eventually triggers tons of xruns when the window is moved and is "large enough". Samples of output from jack: **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 7.470 msecs **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 7.401 msecs **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 7.438 msecs delay of 5728.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 2644.000; restart ... **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 7.482 msecs **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 7.216 msecs **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 7.476 msecs And this is on the kernel log (two samples): ALSA /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-1.0.6rc2/alsa-kernel/core/pcm_lib.c:211: Unexpected hw_pointer value [1] (stream = 0, delta: -126, max jitter = 128): wrong interrupt acknowledge? [<e0ba9f0f>] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x2cf/0x560 [snd_pcm] [<c011e9f7>] __wake_up_common+0x37/0x70 [<e0ad620d>] snd_intel8x0_interrupt+0x29d/0x360 [snd_intel8x0] [<c0225f30>] acpi_ev_gpe_detect+0xf7/0x103 [<c012a9a0>] generic_handle_IRQ_event+0x30/0x60 [<c012ab0c>] do_hardirq+0x13c/0x3a0 [<c012b7f0>] do_irqd+0x0/0x80 [<c012b848>] do_irqd+0x58/0x80 [<c01420e8>] kthread+0x98/0xa0 [<c0142050>] kthread+0x0/0xa0 [<c010429d>] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0x18 ALSA /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-1.0.6rc2/alsa-kernel/core/pcm_lib.c:139: XRUN: pcmC0D0c [<e0ba9faf>] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x36f/0x560 [snd_pcm] [<c011e9f7>] __wake_up_common+0x37/0x70 [<e0ad620d>] snd_intel8x0_interrupt+0x29d/0x360 [snd_intel8x0] [<c0225f30>] acpi_ev_gpe_detect+0xf7/0x103 [<c012a9a0>] generic_handle_IRQ_event+0x30/0x60 [<c012ab0c>] do_hardirq+0x13c/0x3a0 [<c012b7f0>] do_irqd+0x0/0x80 [<c012b848>] do_irqd+0x58/0x80 [<c01420e8>] kthread+0x98/0xa0 [<c0142050>] kthread+0x0/0xa0 [<c010429d>] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0x18 ALSA /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-1.0.6rc2/alsa-kernel/core/pcm_lib.c:211: Unexpected hw_pointer value [1] (stream = 1, delta: -38, max jitter = 128): wrong interrupt acknowledge? [<e0ba9f0f>] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x2cf/0x560 [snd_pcm] [<c011e9f7>] __wake_up_common+0x37/0x70 [<e0ad620d>] snd_intel8x0_interrupt+0x29d/0x360 [snd_intel8x0] [<c0225f30>] acpi_ev_gpe_detect+0xf7/0x103 [<c012a9a0>] generic_handle_IRQ_event+0x30/0x60 [<c012ab0c>] do_hardirq+0x13c/0x3a0 [<c012b7f0>] do_irqd+0x0/0x80 [<c012b848>] do_irqd+0x58/0x80 [<c01420e8>] kthread+0x98/0xa0 [<c0142050>] kthread+0x0/0xa0 [<c010429d>] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0x18 ALSA /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-1.0.6rc2/alsa-kernel/core/pcm_lib.c:139: XRUN: pcmC0D0p [<e0ba9faf>] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x36f/0x560 [snd_pcm] [<c011e9f7>] __wake_up_common+0x37/0x70 [<e0ad620d>] snd_intel8x0_interrupt+0x29d/0x360 [snd_intel8x0] [<c0225f30>] acpi_ev_gpe_detect+0xf7/0x103 [<c012a9a0>] generic_handle_IRQ_event+0x30/0x60 [<c012ab0c>] do_hardirq+0x13c/0x3a0 [<c012b7f0>] do_irqd+0x0/0x80 [<c012b848>] do_irqd+0x58/0x80 [<c01420e8>] kthread+0x98/0xa0 [<c0142050>] kthread+0x0/0xa0 [<c010429d>] kernel_thread_helper+0x5/0x18 Does not look very helpful... -- Fernando [*] almost everything shares IRQ9..... sigh... 9: 1480257 XT-PIC acpi, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, eth0, yenta, yenta, Intel 82801CA-ICH3, radeon@PCI:1:0:0
