On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 02:18:26 -0400, Jon B wrote: > >Friends who have X series thinkpads seem happy with them, I dont know what > >the 3d is like offhand. I've used a number of laptops, and I would say > >that IBMs are the best constructed by a long way. Even the expensive dells > >are flimsy. Some Sonys are OK, but I dont know which ones. > > Hmm... The X uses centrino and I am reading nothing but bad things > about centrino and linux... Good luck finding a laptop that doesnt suck and isn't a centrino*. There are some desktop machines in laptop form, but they have bad battery life and run far too hot. FWIW, I havent had any problems with the centrino bits of my machine. YMMV. The graphics stuff is more of a problem, as it more or less needs the propietary ATI drivers, which are not good. The propietary nVidia ones are better IME. * there are some minority, very low power chipsets, but performance tends to not be that good. - Steve