Thanks. I got modules.conf and modutils/alsa-base looking a little saner and then tried rebooting. I ended up with both the alsa and the oss modules loaded. Does anyone have any idea why the oss modules are loading? They certainly aren't anywhere in either modules.conf or modutils/*. I still have the depmod errors when I run update-modules, but this message suggests that those aren't my problem: <http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg00039.html> I'm starting to be good at removing all the sound-related modules. When I do that, and then run "/etc/init.d/alsa start", here are the modules I end up with: snd-emu10k1 75336 1 (autoclean) snd-pcm-oss 39464 1 (autoclean) snd-mixer-oss 13848 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm 61124 0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14532 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm] snd-hwdep 5248 0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1] snd-util-mem 1264 0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1] snd-ac97-codec 55580 0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1] snd-rawmidi 13504 0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1] snd-seq-device 4160 0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi] snd 33508 0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-hwdep snd-util-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore 3940 6 (autoclean) [snd] Does this look right? soundcore has the same name as an oss driver, I think. Is there any chance I'm loading the wrong one? When I run timidity on a MIDI file, either from my own account or from root, it looks like it thinks it's playing, and I get no error messages as a user. I have unplugged a usb device and removed its module, and this gets rid of the messages about sharing IRQ's that were showing up in /var/log/messages, so there are now no error messages anywhere that I know about. Is LINUX going overboard trying to look like windows? It used to be you could find log files with error messages when something didn't work. Not that you could always understand the error messages, but they gave you somewhere to start with google or a mailing list like this. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@xxxxxxxxxxxx , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139
