I hate when I think of a third question after hitting send this one is maybe best backchanneled to Mark, but I don't have the address down here, I've just discovered, so let's hope it's of use to other people: If I'm to figure out how to apply Thomas's patch to the planet flow, it might help me to have a little detail on what YOU did to apply the patch. given that I'm semi smart, but have so little information, this might help a great deal. :) slowly I learn - *chugga chugga* -- -------------- Aaron Trumm NQuit www.nquit.com --------------