Greetings: In the process of providing Tim with an example I found that some severe instability sporadically occurs with the following setup: Pd 0.37 (final) vstserver 0.2.7 k_vst~ (latest) WINE 20030911 from WineHQ (i.e., not Kjetil's) Sometimes the server will go into an endless loop of "wine client error" messages. No problem, I can kill the process with no difficulty, but it would be nicer if it didn't happen. ;) The spin usually takes place when I'm setting up the Pd patch for more than one plugin, but unfortunately it doesn't happen all the time. I'll try Kjetil's version of WINE later today. Btw, I agree that it would be good to have a list of VST plugins known to work in the environment. Alas, I have no time to put into such a thing, but I will gladly donate my own list and comments. Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org