Mark I fully agree with what you said, and probably the MIS piano is not that great compared to those 16 layers samples. But some probably would like to have decent quality samples available for free. And AFAIK there aren't that many around. Perhaps a music research lab at an university or some private piano owner/recording studio that owns the required recording equipement could try to make such an 8-16 layer GIG file and make it available for free in order to support the musicians that want to make music with free software/sample libraries/sounds. Of course other instruments are welcome too ;-) Yes I fully agree it takes lots of work to make a high quality sample library but on the other hand writing a complex audio application takes lots of man-months (of talented software engineers which are much more rare than musicians/sound designers) so if we follow your reasoning one might ask about why wasting all this time to create for example LinuxSampler when there are dozen of sw-samplers available on the market. Some powerful cost up to $800-$1000 while others run as low as $50-$80 (the german Speedsoft V-Sampler for Windows). I think the same ideals that induce people to write free audio software for Linux should induce sound designers that share our beliefs to produce samples and sounds that can be used for free. I think everyone should have the right of making music , and we all know instruments (both traditional and electronic ones) have always been expensive but thanks to PC technology and free software (and hopefully some free samples/sounds) we can significantly lower the barrier of entry for the not so wealthy. Sound designers that make available some of their samples for free will contribute to that cause. I think like there exists the "Digital Divide" (the poor not having access to computers/internet), there exist a "Music Divide" too. (the creative person that would like to make music but cannot afford to buy the required tools). Let's contribute to remove that barrier too. Benno http://www.linuxsampler.org Mark Knecht wrote: >>exactly, if you (or others) are experienced with GigaStudio you could >>try to assemble a .GIG instrument. >> >> > >Sure, but as I pointed out in the next email, I think there's not a good >reason to go through that effort just yet: > >1) There are free piano libraries out there, or you can buy one starting at >probably $39 or so. East-West comes to mind. > >2) Today's best GSt pianos are doing 16 (or more) layers pedal up, 16 (or >more) layers pedal down AND release samples. It does make a big difference >to have both pedal down and release samples. > >If you hardware cannot handle that library, then these high end libraries >all ship stripped down versions that use just pieces, like only pedal up and >no release, to ease the burden on hardware. Even the high-end ones only run >about $200, so at 33 samples * 88 notes or about 2500 wave files, someone >has to really WANT to do this because it's only costing about 10 cents per >wave file and they have a better piano so sample. > >This still comes back, in my mind as a GSt user for about 3 years, to having >some sounds that are worthwhile. Taking an existing synth, or piano, and >doing some processing to make something new will be more useful than just >another GSt piano library. > >BTW - do you know about the Piano Shootout page? > >http://www.purgatorycreek.com/pianocompare.html > >There must be close to 100 piano libraries right now just on this site... > >- Mark > > > > > > >