On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:12:48 -0400, "Taybin Rutkin" <taybin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > Isn't one of the definitions of a WAV file is that it can merely wrap > another file format? And usually that format is RIFF, but not > necessarily? It's the other way around. RIFF is a wrapper for other file formats, which usually ends up being WAV. WAV allows for different encoding types, if that's what you mean, but the encoding-type-code 0x674F isn't one of the universally recognized standards (0x0001 corresponds to the ubiquitous PCM data encoding format). With this particular file, it seems that they have a standard WAV header at the beginning of the file, and where the PCM data normally is they have an ogg. 'Tis quite funky, really. Peace, =Pete -- "The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of limited resources that it is only employed commonly by small children and great nations." --David D. Friedman