On Friday 21 November 2003 16:06, Daniel James wrote: > Given that the two most popular 'KDE supporter' Linux distributions > (SUSE and Mandrake) also install ALSA by default, maybe dmix rather > than artsd support is what we should be lobbying the KDE developers > for. What we should be lobbying the KDE developers about - and also working towards from the audio end is ensuring compatibility between ALSA/Jack apps and KDE in general. I'm using Agnula/Demudi and it's taken a fair amount of juggling to be able to have both KDE and ALSA apps running in the same installation. This has more to do with libqt3 versions than ALSA. I assume this is due to many audio developers not using KDE at all (?yes that's an assumption). I can't remember where, but I know I've read many times the suggestion that we should disable arts in Kcontrol. I don't miss the whistles and bells at all - if I need an audible reminder I put cdplay in an "at" or "cron" job. Frankly I can't see myself doing any serious audio work using the KDE desktop - if I need a gui I'll use fluxbox, however it would be nice to easily switch between modes as has been suggested. btw: I tried running Jack on a P133 and hahahahahaha you must be joking :-) take care & take it often tim hall