On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Daniel James wrote: <snip> > > Well, KDE is suppoed to cover more than just linux > > In theory, yes, but has anyone seen KDE running on Solaris or anything > like that? All the non-Linux platforms running free software desktops > that I've seen have had GNOME - BSDs users, for example. Sun even > built SUSE with a GNOME interface for its (cough...) 'Java Desktop'. > I was trying to stay out of this thread, but... GNOME is prevalent on Solaris because 1) building something like GNOME or KDE on Solaris is non-trivial and you want the vendor (Sun) to do it for you. I have no idea why many vendors have chosen GNOME. At least here at work and among the geeks I know outside, KDE usage (on linux or BSD, whatever) is much higher than GNOME usage, by a wide margin. YMMV. artsd does have some uses (see below) and you can disable it if you want. > I guess artsd could be retained for legacy use, but with ALSA 1.0 just > around the corner, what's any Linux distributions excuse for not > making it the default? And we know that artsd won't be much use until > the non-KDE applications support it, which isn't very likely. > Artsd works well for things like emulating full-duplex on crap-arse onboard sound rigs like this 810 rig I'm sitting at. Sure. it doesn't rock on the big iron hardware but for a general consumer sound rig it works fine. I've been running arts on top of ALSA for 2 years now w/o a failure or glitch. There's no reason for non-KDE apps to support artsd, as far as I can see so long as they can get to the OSS-emulation layer or better yet are ALSA native. Also, as I understand it, ALSA is standard (in linux) starting with 2.6.0, right? // John Bleichert // syborg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx