Hi all, Thank you all for the quick responses! to drek holzer: thanks for the info on starting jack, it worked great! =) to Benjamin Flemming (Benji) : You were right also! The CVS version compiled without any problems (libhydrogen-0.8.1beta3) =) thanks! to lee and Comix: I don't know about your suggestions: ^libtool is not installed, or is not in your path: whereis libtool: /usr/bin/libtool echo $PATH: /usr:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/qt-3.1.2/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin i tried running ./autogen.sh it didn't work either Thanks all! now I need to decide how many versions of qt I want hogging up my disk space because hydrogen-0.8.1beta3 needs qt-3.2 I know that there is another app that is supposed to work best with 3.1.2 , and I know that hydrogen doesn't consider qt versions backwards compatable ( I tried installing 0.8.0 after I got the libs to work and it complained because qt-3.1.2 was too new! Arrrgh) On one happy note: there isn't any noise in my system yet! =) Thanks all james -- airbrush@xxxxxxxxxxxxx SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org