Hi , > I have also been testing sync scenarios with Ardour (CVS 14 June) + > various apps. I've had success only with Hydrogen. I worked with MusE hydrogen seems to understand only noteon/off, aka works as soft synth. That is what I could achieve so far in combination with muse. I never got control over hydrogen's transport :( > (0.6.0pre5) for a while last night, nothing budged. I *thought* I had > all connections designated: Ardour was set up for Send MTC and Send MMC, > and MusE was set for external sync, recognizing MTC and MIDI clock. The > Ardour sync output is the first virmidi port, so I used kaconnect to > route virmidi 0 to MusE. The MusE console reports MMC stop and seek > position signals for the Ardour playhead, but no start signal (should > it?). Like I said, I got no sync joy. Audio is off in MusE, btw. Maybe > I'm missing something obvious ?? > Exactly the same with my setup, see below... ... > > I'm interested in learning about any successful sync arrangements, with > or without external gear. What apps work well (or even sort of well) > together via MMC, MTC, SMPTE, MIDI clock, or... ?? > Ok, the other way around works 'sort of well'... Muse is able to mmc ardour! Here some pre-requisites, that I just found out: 1. Works only with newly created ardour sessions(1.0beta1-c), otherwise clicking 'MMC Control' in ardour's options checkbox crashes ardour 2. ~/.ardour.rc uses a raw virtual midi interface provided by snd-virmidi. BTW, why doesn't ardour appear as send/receive midi interface in kaconnect? 3. the *same* virtual midi interface is configured as MIDI port in muse, and is configured under MIDI Sync as Master-MMC O-Port. Though, transport is not reliably connected. Sometimes ardour seems to ignore the MMC sent by muse. Regards Martin >> >>On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 09:39, Martin Buechler wrote: >> >>>Hi at muse, >>> >>> ardour-1.0 will not include a sequencer (AFAIK), and muse seems to be >>>(I know, even more than) the complementary part to handle midi related >>>recordings/overdubs. I thought, that all I would need is midi machine >>>control with ardour as the master, muse as the slave. >>> >>> What I tried was: Directing ardour's - current is 1.0beta1-c - mmc to >>>a virtual midi interface provided by the ALSA snd-virmidi module and >>>driving muse as slave accepting mtc/midi clock/mmc with Id 127 and all >>>ports.(Hmm, Whats the use of this Id anyway?) Selecting ardour's MTC >>>generation seems not to change the behaviour of muse/ardour. Selecting >>>the third ardour MIDI option, which is called 'MMC Control' in ardour's >>>options panel, crashes ardour instantly! That may be part of the >>>problem, I guess... >>> >>> Additionally, sync generation was turned off in muse. The transport >>>grays out, and when I start ardour rolling, muse does exactly nothing. >>>But, when I switch off/on the sync button in the transport panel of >>>muse, then I am able to control stop/begin/end whithin ardour! Great, >>>but it 's quite useless, when muse does not *start* with ardout, isn't it? >>> >>>Here's some output of muse -mMDs: >>> >>>ardour: >>>->Goto end >>>(another thing: the bar counts seems to be actually not the same in muse >>>and ardour) >>>-- >>>MidiInput: port:1 chan:193 port:1 chan:192 type:0xf0 a=8 b=0 data len 11 >>>mmcInput: n:11 06 44 06 01 >>>MMC: 156.560000 120238 seek 00:02:36:14:00 >>>MidiInput: port:1 chan:193 port:1 chan:192 type:0xf0 a=8 b=0 data len 4 >>>mmcInput: n:4 06 01 06 01 >>> MMC: STOP >>>-- >>>->Goto begin: >>>-- >>>MidiInput: port:1 chan:122 port:1 chan:121 type:0xf0 a=8 b=0 data len 11 >>>mmcInput: n:11 06 44 06 01 >>>MMC: 0.000000 0 seek 00:00:00:00:00 >>>MidiInput: port:1 chan:122 port:1 chan:121 type:0xf0 a=8 b=0 data len 4 >>>mmcInput: n:4 06 01 06 01 >>> MMC: STOP >>>-- >>> >>>-> Here I started ardour, but nothing happens.. >>> >>>Stop: >>>-- >>>MidiInput: port:1 chan:180 port:1 chan:179 type:0xf0 a=8 b=0 data len 4 >>>mmcInput: n:4 06 01 00 00 >>> MMC: STOP >>>-- >>> >>>How did you get syncing done, maybe even with ardour? Do I expect too much? >>> >>>Thanks for reading. >>> >>>Martin >>>
