--- Daniel James <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > JAMin cant currently run without jack, the i/o + > processing code is > > very complicated and making it work for i/o > systems in addition to > > JACK would make it even worse. > > Fair enough. Besides the JAM of JAMin is an acronym JACK Audio Master. :) > > you can link jamin to your ardour (or insert name > > of favourite multitrack editor) session and make > individual level > > changes to source tracks, rather than messing with > EQ in the > > mastering stage. Several of us think this is the > Right ThingTM and > > should be encoruaged. > > I understood (eg, from the interview with Chris > Gehringer of Sterling > Sound in June 2003 SoS) that mastering engineers > didn't actually like > working on projects which aren't mixed down. It > seems to me that what > you're describing is remixing rather than mastering. Put into other words, Steve is saying that JAMin creates a greater distinction between the responsibilities of mixing and mastering engineers when using the multitrack as the source to the mastering application. Mastering engineers often discover mix problems because mastering is being performed on different monitors and in differnt rooms. The primary objective of mastering is to make sure the mix sounds great everywhere that it's played. The odds for achieving that objective are greatly improved everytime a new monitor and room tell you a new story about a mix. Consider a mix in the mastering studio where the new accoustical environment reveals that the kick drum boom is 5db to hot. The traditional solution when mastering stereo files is to cut 5db of 250Hz. The problem with that is many instruments rely on 250Hz to give them the correct presence. So cutting 5db on the stereo file has a negative affect on those other instruments. Thus a situation for compromise is created. Of course when using the multitrack as the mastering source, the solution is to cut the kick drum by 5db. No compromise is created and the amount of time for achieving the maximum sonic potential for that mix is significanlty reduced. It's important to maintain the distinct roles of mixing and mastering but that's a no brainer, simply do not use JAMin until you've exausted the opportunities for improving the mix. The only problem we can't solve with multitrack sources for mastering is how to put ten of them on an timeline. That's not a particularly pretty session. This problem will probably cause many people to forgo the multitrack mastering source strategy and use JAMin in conjuction with a JACK wav editor player like Rezound. > Surely if you're going to EQ or otherwise filter > individual tracks, > this should be well out of the way before mastering > commences? Absolutely not, see above. LADSPA > already makes this possible, with a fine collection > of plugins. But > maybe JAMin is one of those new paradigm things... JAMin makes the absolute otpimal mastering environment achievable. Thus a new paradigm. :) Unfortunately there's the problem with managing many multitrack songs within one session. Until that problem is solved, multitracks as sources for mastering will never replace stereo track mastering which is unfortunate. I better get some coffee and shutup, ron > > jamin may grow the ability to write files out > OTOH, for when you > > dont want to suck it back into your multitrack, > and I think the > > eventual idea is to make loading a simple wav file > via a jack file > > player pretty transparent. > > Presumably if the mastering plugins are all LADSPA > based they might be > available to all LADSPA clients eventually? Looking > at Glame 1.0, > this could be a particularly suitable platform > because it allows you > to build LADSPA filter networks in a drag and drop > gui, and also > offers file analysis on import and various options > for normalisation. > > Cheers > > Daniel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com