<<< You were right about the number of faders with the Delta 1010 - I <<< checked in the studio, and I only see HW In 1-8, PCM Out 1-8 and the <<< two S/PDIF faders. Two rows would do, or maybe three if you put the <<< S/PDIF faders in line with channels 1 and 2. Then you could specify <<< how many rows and how many channels you wanted... Many thanks to Ross for his excellent work here. On the topic of space and functions on the envy24control panel, I had some questions and ideas. I appologize for the length! First on space, could you not cut the number of graphical channel pairs in half? In other words, why are there "stereo" linked fader pairs for each individual mono PCM 1-10? I noticed that on the Mac/PC version of the delta mixer... http://www.midiman.net/products/m-audio/images/delta-pane3.jpg ...these actually represent stereo pairs. 1 is the left channel of the first pair (PCM 1), 2 the right (PCM 2), etc. Channels can then be paired/unpaired as desired ("stereo linked"). This setup saves alot of real-estate meaning only 5 pairs on the panel for outputs and 5 for inputs even on the 1010 (though it does mean a split vu meter for each). The first 4 are analog PCM pairs, the last two are the stereo pair for SPDIF. Outputs: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | PCM 1/2 PCM 3/4 PCM 5/6 PCM 7/8 SPDIF L/R (9/10) ...likewise for Inputs. As it stands now, not only is there duplication, but it is also impossible to link stereo-pair levels on the panel. As to the additional hardware output control, this is absolutely necessary when, as in my case, the analog outputs go directly to powered monitors. Without them, levels must be controlled by exterenal harware. But couldn't this functionality be built into to the PCM out's already there? Right now on my Delta 1010 (ALSA 0.93 in PlanetCCRMA) these PCM-out faders/mutes do nothing to the signal level at all unless I route it somewhere internally, like to the "Digital Mix". Shouldn't these faders control the hardware-out level when routed directly from PCM Outs in the Patchbay (as they all are by default on my machine)? Thanks again for everything. Your work is much appreciated. Very best, Kevin ===== "I should prefer this note not be read or, if skimmed, that it should be forgotten." - Mallarme __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com