Yeah, and when you listen to the origianls , like Willie Dixon, although both use 12 bars, the black blues is different. However the Stones had black blues musicians opening for them, and Clapton is accepted as a real blues guy by people like BB King. I actually had a guitar workshop with one of BB's old protege's who gave him some of his first radio airplay, and I'm just some Sicilian WOP, but he told me I HAD to play the blues, that I "got it" better than anybody else in the workshop, and after the class I got all these invitations to come back to a couple of my black female musician friends rooms to "kick it". My own music is heavily influenced by the african diaspora, as well as by southeast asian music, but lately, after finding out the Sicily was a part of ancient Greece, I've been delving into ancient Greek music to get into my own personal roots, but I could never stop listening to jazz or blues or hiphop, even though its not within my own native culture perhaps, but music is about love, not culture. On 3 Jul 2003, Jan Depner wrote: > Daniel, > > > On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 04:46, Daniel James wrote: > > > In particular, I have a problem on this latter point with the UK's > > rock aristocracy, who made most of their money from ripping off black > > American music and selling it to white Americans in a more acceptable > > format. So for Mick Jagger or Eric Clapton to say I owe *them* money > > because they own 'their' music, I find particularly distasteful. > > > > OK, I had to comment on this one. Eric Clapton pays royalties to the > writer on everything he covers - just ask J. J. Cale (After Midnight, > Cocaine). The Stones didn't cover much music, theirs was mostly > original. When they covered, they paid (Harlem Shuffle). If you're > trying to say that writing a blues tune is stealing just because it's 12 > bar you're in pretty deep. If that's the case who "owns" 12 bar blues? > If you really want to nail those who stole verbatim and put their name > on it why not try Led Zeppelin (Killin' Floor and a cast of thousands). > > Jan > > >