> > I recently bought the Live NIN CD and was disappointed to find that it > might be copy protected as well. It's not on the list of copy protected > CDs and it bears no warning, but it also doesn't have the "Compact Disc > Digital Audio" logo anywhere on it. On top of all that, ripping > applications have been weird when pulling audio off of it. cdparanoia > managed to start getting the tracks this morning, but it was going very > slow with lots of errors being noted. I'll be interested in hearing if > it works or not... > Newspaper articles I saw here in the US indicated that some manufacturers were making a large number of non-protected disks, and then a smaller number of protected disks, and then mixing them together for shipment. None of the disks were externally marked in any way to identify which ones were which. The strategy, apparently, was to let people return the protected disks them as bad disks, if they found them, and then let the retail stores return them to the manufacturer. The manufacturer would then take statistics about how many of the protected disks were returned, and would then use this info to make a decision about how many more disks they could afford to make protected. their goal was to get the number of protected disks way up over time. As always, I'm the rat in the maze. I now attempt to rip EVERY CD I buy, even though I do not usually play CDs on my computer and don't even keep the ripped track. Such a waste of time. Unlike many, I don't understand the attraction of downloaded music, really, other than it's theft. I completely disagree with both copy protecting CD as I should be able to make a personal copy, but I completely disagree with Kazaa, et all, as it's just theft. I guess I'm just disagreeable... ;-) - Mark