Thanks. I have to admit, I got the mic idea from a recording magazine. An engineer was saying that he only ever uses two overhead condenser mics on drums and occasionally a mic on the kick. His point was that drums are *an* instrument, not a collection of instruments and that you should hear them that way. I thought that sounded pretty reasonable (plus I only have the two condenser mics;). I guess if your drummer is bad enough that you need to mic every drum/cymbal and try to fix it in the mix you need to get a better drummer. I did have the mics set at 45. I had heard that somewhere as well. I can't recall where though. Jan On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 12:34, linuxmedia4@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > "Darren Landrum" <consul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I would like to reiterate how much I like the sound you got form the > > drums. It sounds so natural, and quite perfect for the type of music > > you're doing. > > > >-- Darren > > >> Jan \Evil Twin\ Depner > >> Anthony, > >> > >> I used two cheap (Marshall) overhead condenser mics for the > >> drums (about 2 meters up and slighty back of the > >> drummer) and a Shure SM57 on the kick. > > One thing I wanted to point out (that they taught us in the recording > classes I took) was that in the (above) setup, it's important to put > the mics in a "cross pattern" (like an X). The heads of the mics need > to be 45 degrees apart from each other. If you don't then you can get > "phase cancellations". It has to do with the the amount of time it > takes sound to hit one mic and then the other. If the mics are _not_ at > a 45 degree position, then they can be close enough to cause one mic > to pick up the sound source and the other one to pick up the _same_ > sound source (just milliseconds later). And when you have the same exact > sound being offsetted by only milliseconds, you get "phasing". In fact, > that exactly how you get the (guitar) effect they call "phasing".... by taking a sound and offsetting the same sound by just a few milliseconds. > > I think (if my memory serves me well) that the 45 degree angle isolates each mic to the point were it can't pick up the same sound in each mic. > > Actually, Jan may have some kind of knack for this thing, because we were taught that (the tecnique jan used) was the way to go if you only have 3 mics - (two overhead and one for the kick drum). In fact, I think Jan's choice to use condencers for overhead and sm57 on the kick is a good choice. But please trust me. If you don't do the cross pattern you (could) hear unwanted sounds (and/or dropouts). > > > While I'm at it... that whole recording sounds great. > > Rocco > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
