On Sunday 28 December 2003 21:18, derek holzer wrote: > Just a quick note: trying to 'apt-get install demudi-all' over anything > but Debian Woody will end in tears. Yes, you're right and this package is not available on all distributions either, so ignore that suggestion. > My experience is that newer KDE > packages, in particular, create a rat's-nest of dependencies which get > quickly broken by down-grading to the needs of the DeMuDi packages, > especially qjackctl and some of the midi ones that use QT. Afraid you'll > have to choose between a fancy desktop and a full-on DeMuDi box for the > time being... Agreed. I'm having a reasonable degree of succes with my mixed system on this. This is not a recommended strategy, by the way kids :-] I'm mostly running debian/testing with kde-3.1.4 and I've managed to install an awful lot of audio apps either from the Agnula-1.1 archive or Debian/Unstable on top of that. It's taken a fair amount of juggling and I've not really checked out how much of it Actually Works. The one critical unresolved dependency is with qjackconnect, which still depends on the old libqt-mt, qjackctl-0.0.9a-1 is fine. It does mean I'm not using some QT audio apps, I have both Rosegarden4 and MusE installed. Downgrading to meet the needs of DeMuDi-1.0 would cause all sorts of problems. I do suspect that by the time I get it working it will be more 'unstable' than 'testing'. I'm working on the basis that all the packages I want will filter through into the testing archive sooner or later and I'll kind of meet them halfway. Agnula/DeMuDi-1.1 is based on a recent 'snapshot' of unstable (aka 'sid') FTWDK. While all of this is madly gay, It wouldn't do for every day, I really live on hda, the drive ... next .. door. Which incidentally is running Agnula/DeMuDi-1.0 on top of Woody and it all works fine [now :-] apart from some b0rked bits of kde2, which I can live without. For the first time user, start here, it's all rather old compared to what people are talking about on this list. I guess the point I'm making is the the apt system is flexible enough that you can integrate packages from other debian-based archives at any point simply by adding them to your /etc/apt/sources.list and also gives you a great deal of control over that by editing /etc/apt/preferences and using apt-pinning. You /do/ have to decide whether you want a DAW or an office box, however. I've only been using Debian a year so I'm still a relative newbie and I find this pretty straightforward. It does require having a reasonable amount of time to spend reading and configuring. If you're not up for that, don't use Debian :-) cheers tim hall