On Saturday 06 December 2003 15:42, Jan Depner wrote: > Uh, Tim, why don't you just download the software and make CDs for your > friends yourself? a) I don't actually have a CD burner yet b) I'm so green around the gills that I wouldn't have a clue how to create Windows or Mac compatible binaries. Most of my friends wouldn't know what to do with the source code either. Really and truly an open source package manager for these systems would be the way to go. (I've not looked) c) I'd be more inclined to offer to install some version of Linux for them if they were really that interested and let them go from there. Apart from that, point taken. cheers tim hall PS: Watching my nine-year old and various friends use my system, I'd say the Linux Desktop for casual users is here, given the availability of technical support. IMX it's the configuration that is difficult, not the installation & usage.