I'm running KDE under Gentoo and I've only had problems with one program and jack xruns: Swami and FluidSynth running a 119MB drum set patch. It began to produce so many xruns I could hit a crash cymbal without droupouts. But whatever, the developers say it's beta software. On the other hand I've run Rosegarden triggering Hydrogen, Zynaddsubfx and a MIDI synth with no droupouts and came up with a good tune, recorded it in Audacity. So it's workig out well. Swami and fluidsynth will be grand in due time... Also, I'm using jacko.py, a python script that gives a nice GUI to the jack server. It's been great, along with QTjackconnect and ALSA patch bay. This whole collection of windows take up a desktop, so I'm thinking of trying to put them into one interface...like a "start audio system" GUI. -l[e^2] ------------------------------ http://www.fallingforward.net/ people experimenting with music, art and technology On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hello, > > i am working quite intense on lerning ARDOUR by doing. Using its beta i > > exrerience some bugs that are more or less tolerablein such great an App > > for no cost (crashes when trying some adventurous routing-stuff, some > > lesser gui-issues). > > After all there are only 2 really serious problems: > > > > 1.)Importing .wav-files fails too often (regardless if these files are > > written by Samplitude, Audacity, rezound or even Ardour itself) > > > > How is that on your setups out there? > > Many similar problems earlier. I haven't used the program since it went to > it's first release. I expect its gotten better. > > > > > 2.)Many xruns, (some after 2 seconds, others after 2 mins, mostly within > > 40 secs or so - sometimes i had testrecordings of unbroken 10 minutes) > > > > I use Ardour on SuSE 8.2 pro with jack0.74 as root only on runlevel 3 in > > Windowmaker, all networking is off, no kdeinit is running. > > I somehow doubt this is due to your hardware. More likely it's some set of > interactions between the software that is running on your machine, or > possibly the way you have your hardware configured. I would really try to > understand this before you spend another penny, or you're likely to spend > many dollars and make no forward progress. > > Overall, I would suggest that most xrun problems are caused by latency > issues, and not by raw bandwidth until you get to the point where you are > running many, many audio tracks. I think you are not at that point yet. > > Many things can effect this: > > 1) Gnome/KDE are compicated environments. For test purposes at least try > something like fluxbox which runs almost nothing by defualt. (I don't know > windowmaker - it may be pretty minimal already.) > > 2) Look at how you have your existing hardware installed and configured. Are > you sharing interrupts? Are you using APIC, APIC-IO or ACPI? All of these > can have major effects. > > 3) Test your existing hard drive/drives for bandwidth capabilities. (hdparm > or Benno's disk test programs) > > 4) Do your xruns correspond to other things happening on the PC? > > Best of luck in finding the solution. Folks are here to help. > > Cheers, > Mark > >