> maybe instal 9.0 and upgrade to cooker? That's not a bad idea - thanks. > mandrake is permanent beta. I'd agree it favours features over stability. By the time the problems are ironed out, out comes a new version! > btw, big thanks to Thac for his rpms. He (?) has done a great job of packaging audio applications for Mandrake, better than Mandrakesoft itself. Cheers Daniel