Hi, --- Mark Knecht <markknecht@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > He is evil, isn't he?! ;-) > > It would probably be cheaper in the long run to buy > 2 low-performance > 1394 or USB 2.0 hard drives for each customer at > $100 each, charging > them when they do the session. We used to do something similar to this but clients don't want to spend money. Even though $100.00 is chicken feed. You leave a copy on > your RAID system, > make two copies or their data, give one to the > customer to take home. > You keep in your closet in case of bad weather. >From experience, this is a pretty serious PITA. We've got reems of tape dating back to the early 1980s. Every couple of months, someone asks "do you have?" Well, the pile of tape is rediculous and it's all stored about 100 miles from here. Our new policy is, when the job is completed, it is archived and given to the client. We don't want anything to do with managing history. Which is one reason I think DVD might be useful to clients. It's cheap and they can mount the disks at home. So, rather than "do you have" I want to hear "if I bring X in, can you...?" > How long does backing up to tape take you, if you > include backing up and > verifying the data is good? I've never timed it but it's slow. The upside is that I start the archive and walk away, in practice, I can get stuck thinking which is something I don't have time for. ron I did 20GB of Pro Tools > data yesterday in > less than an hour. > > Cheers, > Mark > > On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 14:15, R Parker wrote: > > Jan, > > > > Now I understand the "Evil Twin" part of your > name, > > $11,000.00 isn't dreaming, it's nightmaring. :) I > did > > a froogle.com for "HP Ultrium SCSI tape drive" and > it > > seems we're talking between $4,000.00 and > $6,000.00 > > USD. The question I have is, will I ever be able > to > > afford a fishing boat? > > > > I swear I'm going to follow through with my threat > to > > sell the studio and franchise adolescent owned > > lemonade stands. There'd be alot more profit in > it. > > > > ron > > > > --- "Jan \"Evil Twin\" Depner" > > <eviltwin69@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Ron, > > > > > > If you're really serious about having failsafe > > > backup, get a PogoLinux > > > StorageWare 3800 1.2TB IDE RAID (RAID 5 with > spare). > > > Use rsync to > > > automatically back up your SCSI RAIDs to the > 3800 > > > (crontab). Then get > > > an HP Ultrium SCSI tape drive to hook to the > 3800. > > > The drives run about > > > 5K and tapes are down to about $80 per. They > are > > > advertised to hold > > > 200GB compressed, 100GB native. You know how > those > > > advertisements are. > > > I didn't believe it so I did my own tests at > work. > > > Using byte compacted > > > (as opposed to compressed or bit compacted) > sonar > > > data I got 170-180GB > > > per tape with an actual write speed to tape of > > > 13.465MB/sec. DDS just > > > ain't in the race at 1MB/sec for DDS3 or 2MB/sec > for > > > DDS4 (those are > > > rated numbers, not actual). This setup would > run > > > you about 11K. I > > > figured I'd throw this out here while we were > > > dreaming ;) > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 05:36, R Parker wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > --- Steve Harris <S.W.Harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > gotta duck and cringe. :) Guys, with my > > > > > requirements, > > > > > > could it be done better and for less > money? > > > It's > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > Hell no, I'd use exactly the same setup. My > > > > > experience is that it costs > > > > > far more to back up a large disk system than > it > > > does > > > > > to populate it with > > > > > disks anyway. > > > > > > > > Yikes! I'm using large ide disks to mirror the > > > scsi > > > > raid array. > > > > > > > > I've been thinking about switching our archive > > > > strategy from DD3 tape to rewritable DVD. DVD > is > > > > probably alot more convienant for clients. > > > > > > > > The following is pretty far off the orginal > topic. > > > > Reguardless, it's encouraging and exciting to > know > > > > what we can expect from professional audio in > > > linux. > > > > BTW, my interest in producing audio with a > linux > > > based > > > > environment is the Ardour mission statement > where > > > > professional audio is a requirement. > > > > > > > > How effective an audio environment can we > build on > > > > linux with jackd the high bandwidth, low > latency > > > audio > > > > server? > > > > > > > > Earlier tonight, I ran the following tasks > > > > symoultaneously: > > > > *Rsync mirror via LAN > > > > *Mastering of stereo file on Mac via 100mb > LAN, > > > atalk > > > > *'cp -R 2gig directory from channel A to > channel B > > > of > > > > scsi raid controler > > > > *Ardour; playback of eight audio channels > > > > *switching virtual desktops and applications > > > windows, > > > > 'ctrl c + hold tab key infinitely' then 'alt + > > > f1,4' > > > > like a mad man, and then checking yahoo mail > > > > repeatedly > > > > > > > > jackd started with 'jackd -R -v -d alsa -d > hw:0 -p > > > 512 > > > > -r 44100' > > > > > > > > During a twenty minute stretch with the above > > > tasks > > > > being done at the same time, I generated one > xrun. > > > The > > > > "-p 512" is an exceptable latency for me > because I > > > use > > > > an external mixing consol and build the studio > and > > > > control room mixes from the input stages. > > > > > > > > Anyway, my new point is that professional > audio > > > > production in linux is a reality. > > > > > > > > ron > > > > > > > > > - Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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