On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 10:04 AM Rob Clark <robdclark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 2:14 PM Rob Clark <robdclark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:46 PM Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 11:56:27AM +0530, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote: > > > > On 2021-02-01 23:50, Jordan Crouse wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 08:20:44AM -0800, Rob Clark wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:16 AM Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 03:12:59PM +0530, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2021-01-29 14:35, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 07:45:04PM +0530, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > +#define IOMMU_LLC (1 << 6) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On reflection, I'm a bit worried about exposing this because I think it > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > introduce a mismatched virtual alias with the CPU (we don't even have a > > > > > > > > > MAIR > > > > > > > > > set up for this memory type). Now, we also have that issue for the PTW, > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > since we always use cache maintenance (i.e. the streaming API) for > > > > > > > > > publishing the page-tables to a non-coheren walker, it works out. > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > if somebody expects IOMMU_LLC to be coherent with a DMA API coherent > > > > > > > > > allocation, then they're potentially in for a nasty surprise due to the > > > > > > > > > mismatched outer-cacheability attributes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't we add the syscached memory type similar to what is done on android? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe. How does the GPU driver map these things on the CPU side? > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently we use writecombine mappings for everything, although there > > > > > > are some cases that we'd like to use cached (but have not merged > > > > > > patches that would give userspace a way to flush/invalidate) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LLC/system cache doesn't have a relationship with the CPU cache. Its > > > > > just a > > > > > little accelerator that sits on the connection from the GPU to DDR and > > > > > caches > > > > > accesses. The hint that Sai is suggesting is used to mark the buffers as > > > > > 'no-write-allocate' to prevent GPU write operations from being cached in > > > > > the LLC > > > > > which a) isn't interesting and b) takes up cache space for read > > > > > operations. > > > > > > > > > > Its easiest to think of the LLC as a bonus accelerator that has no cost > > > > > for > > > > > us to use outside of the unfortunate per buffer hint. > > > > > > > > > > We do have to worry about the CPU cache w.r.t I/O coherency (which is a > > > > > different hint) and in that case we have all of concerns that Will > > > > > identified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > For mismatched outer cacheability attributes which Will mentioned, I was > > > > referring to [1] in android kernel. > > > > > > I've lost track of the conversation here :/ > > > > > > When the GPU has a buffer mapped with IOMMU_LLC, is the buffer also mapped > > > into the CPU and with what attributes? Rob said "writecombine for > > > everything" -- does that mean ioremap_wc() / MEMREMAP_WC? > > > > Currently userspace asks for everything WC, so pgprot_writecombine() > > > > The kernel doesn't enforce this, but so far provides no UAPI to do > > anything useful with non-coherent cached mappings (although there is > > interest to support this) > > > > btw, I'm looking at a benchmark (gl_driver2_off) where (after some > other in-flight optimizations land) we end up bottlenecked on writing > to WC cmdstream buffers. I assume in the current state, WC goes all > the way to main memory rather than just to system cache? > oh, I guess this (mentioned earlier in thread) is what I really want for this benchmark: https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/kernel/common/+/1549097/3 > BR, > -R > > > BR, > > -R > > > > > Finally, we need to be careful when we use the word "hint" as "allocation > > > hint" has a specific meaning in the architecture, and if we only mismatch on > > > those then we're actually ok. But I think IOMMU_LLC is more than just a > > > hint, since it actually drives eviction policy (i.e. it enables writeback). > > > > > > Sorry for the pedantry, but I just want to make sure we're all talking > > > about the same things! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Will
