On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 14:25, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 21/01/2019 10:50, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 11:17, Vivek Gautam <vivek.gautam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 12:56 PM Ard Biesheuvel > >> <ard.biesheuvel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 06:54, Vivek Gautam <vivek.gautam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Qualcomm SoCs have an additional level of cache called as > >>>> System cache, aka. Last level cache (LLC). This cache sits right > >>>> before the DDR, and is tightly coupled with the memory controller. > >>>> The clients using this cache request their slices from this > >>>> system cache, make it active, and can then start using it. > >>>> For these clients with smmu, to start using the system cache for > >>>> buffers and, related page tables [1], memory attributes need to be > >>>> set accordingly. This series add the required support. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Does this actually improve performance on reads from a device? The > >>> non-cache coherent DMA routines perform an unconditional D-cache > >>> invalidate by VA to the PoC before reading from the buffers filled by > >>> the device, and I would expect the PoC to be defined as lying beyond > >>> the LLC to still guarantee the architected behavior. > >> > >> We have seen performance improvements when running Manhattan > >> GFXBench benchmarks. > >> > > > > Ah ok, that makes sense, since in that case, the data flow is mostly > > to the device, not from the device. > > > >> As for the PoC, from my knowledge on sdm845 the system cache, aka > >> Last level cache (LLC) lies beyond the point of coherency. > >> Non-cache coherent buffers will not be cached to system cache also, and > >> no additional software cache maintenance ops are required for system cache. > >> Pratik can add more if I am missing something. > >> > >> To take care of the memory attributes from DMA APIs side, we can add a > >> DMA_ATTR definition to take care of any dma non-coherent APIs calls. > >> > > > > So does the device use the correct inner non-cacheable, outer > > writeback cacheable attributes if the SMMU is in pass-through? > > > > We have been looking into another use case where the fact that the > > SMMU overrides memory attributes is causing issues (WC mappings used > > by the radeon and amdgpu driver). So if the SMMU would honour the > > existing attributes, would you still need the SMMU changes? > > Even if we could force a stage 2 mapping with the weakest pagetable > attributes (such that combining would work), there would still need to > be a way to set the TCR attributes appropriately if this behaviour is > wanted for the SMMU's own table walks as well. > Isn't that just a matter of implementing support for SMMUs that lack the 'dma-coherent' attribute?