Hi Lina, These bindings are the reason for my interest in this patchset; I'm hoping to be able to do some work based on them in order to generically describe the cost of idle states for use in the Energy Aware Scheduling (EAS)[1] energy model. Mark Rutland expressed concern [2] in the thread for the previous version of this patchset that there are now two possible locations for the list of idle states; that hasn't been addressed. My own instinct is that this is OK: in the real world, power domain (e.g. cluster) idle states are a property of the power domain and not of the CPU it contains - the DT should reflect this. However, since there are existing platform DTs with cluster-level suspend states (which are platform-coordinated rather than OS-initiated) in cpu-idle-states, do we have a backwards-compatibility issue? e.g. say we have a platform with a DT like this: cpu@0 { /*...*/ cpu-idle-states = <&CPU_SLEEP &CLUSTER_SLEEP>; }; idle-states { CPU_SLEEP: cpu-sleep { /*...*/ }; CLUSTER_SLEEP: cluster-sleep { /*...*/ }; }; and in order to enable OS-initiated cluster suspend it changes to this: cpu@0 { /*...*/ cpu-idle-states = <&CPU_SLEEP>; power-domains = <CPU_PD>; }; idle-states { CPU_SLEEP: cpu-sleep { /*...*/ }; }; /*... elsewhere ... */ CLUSTER_SLEEP: cluster-sleep { /*...*/ }; CPU_PD { /*...*/ idle-states = <&CLUSTER_SLEEP>; }; Then old kernels which don't have CPU PM Domains will lose the ability to suspend clusters. I've phrased this as a question because I'm not clear on what we require in terms of backwards/forwards compatibility with DTs - excuse my ignorance. What are your thoughts on this? A couple of notes: On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 03:56:13PM -0600, Lina Iyer wrote: > +Example 3: > + > + pm-domains { > + a57_pd: a57_pd@ { > + /* will have a57 platform ARM_PD_METHOD_OF_DECLARE*/ > + compatible = "arm,pd","arm,cortex-a57"; > + #power-domain-cells = <0>; > + idle-states = <&CLUSTER_SLEEP_0>; > + }; > + > + a53_pd: a53_pd@ { > + /* will have a a53 platform ARM_PD_METHOD_OF_DECLARE*/ > + compatible = "arm,pd","arm,cortex-a53"; > + #power-domain-cells = <0>; > + idle-states = <&CLUSTER_SLEEP_0>, <&CLUSTER_SLEEP_1>; > + }; > + > + CLUSTER_SLEEP_0: idle-state@0 { > + compatible = "arm,idle-state"; > + entry-latency-us = <1000>; > + exit-latency-us = <2000>; > + residency-us = <10000>; > + }; > + > + CLUSTER_SLEEP_1: idle-state@1 { > + compatible = "arm,idle-state"; > + entry-latency-us = <5000>; > + exit-latency-us = <5000>; > + residency-us = <100000>; > + }; I'm confused about the location of the idle state nodes. In this example, they're under the pm-domains node which seems wrong to me. In your later patch for msm8916.dsti they come under cpu-domain-states. I'm inexperienced here so please excuse me again if I'm being ignorant. idle-states.txt (to which this file refers) says that idle state nodes must come under /cpus/idle-states. I don't think power domain idle states belong there, so the documentation should be updated to reflect that. > + }; > + > + > The nodes above define two power controllers: 'parent' and 'child'. > Domains created by the 'child' power controller are subdomains of '0' power > domain provided by the 'parent' power controller. This block refers to Example 2 - the hunk you added should be below. [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/650426/ [2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9193651/ Regards, Brendan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arm-msm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html