On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 03:33:57PM GMT, Prakash Gupta wrote: > > > On 6/24/2024 8:34 PM, Mukesh Ojha wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 07:25:23PM -0500, Bjorn Andersson wrote: > >> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 05:24:29PM GMT, Mukesh Ojha wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/27/2024 2:16 AM, Bjorn Andersson wrote: > >>>> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 09:01:45PM GMT, Mukesh Ojha wrote: > >>>>> For SCM protection, memory allocation should be physically contiguous, > >>>>> 4K aligned, and non-cacheable to avoid XPU violations. This granularity > >>>>> of protection applies from the secure world. Additionally, it's possible > >>>>> that a 32-bit secure peripheral will access memory in SoCs like > >>>>> sm8{4|5|6}50 for some remote processors. Therefore, memory allocation > >>>>> needs to be done in the lower 4 GB range. To achieve this, Linux's CMA > >>>>> pool can be used with dma_alloc APIs. > >>>>> > >>>>> However, dma_alloc APIs will fall back to the buddy pool if the requested > >>>>> size is less than or equal to PAGE_SIZE. It's also possible that the remote > >>>>> processor's metadata blob size is less than a PAGE_SIZE. Even though the > >>>>> DMA APIs align the requested memory size to PAGE_SIZE, they can still fall > >>>>> back to the buddy allocator, which may fail if `CONFIG_ZONE_{DMA|DMA32}` > >>>>> is disabled. > >>>> > >>>> Does "fail" here mean that the buddy heap returns a failure - in some > >>>> case where dma_alloc would have succeeded, or that it does give you > >>>> a PAGE_SIZE allocation which doesn't meeting your requirements? > >>> > >>> Yes, buddy will also try to allocate memory and may not get PAGE_SIZE memory > >>> in lower 4GB(for 32bit capable device) if CONFIG_ZONE_{DMA|DMA32} is > >>> disabled. > >> > >> Is that -ENOMEM or does "not get" mean that the buddy fallback will > >> provide an allocation above 4GB? > > > > dma_alloc_coherent() returns NULL in that situation. > > > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.10-rc5/source/kernel/dma/direct.c#L142 > > > > -Mukesh > > > > scm device is using DMA mask as 32b. With size <= PAGE_SIZE, call to > dma_alloc_contiguous() at [1] will return NULL. > > With DMA mask as 32b and CONFIG_ZONE_{DMA|DMA32} disabled, the allocation > can't be guaranteed within 32b with buddy. Hence will return page as NULL. > > Adding a padded page should allow allocation from CMA region. > Thanks for the explanation, Prakash and Mukesh. It sounds wrong to me that one has to trick the DMA API this way. I assume this comes from the check [a], could we perhaps propose modifying this? If nothing else it will give us the DMA maintainers' input regarding this being the appropriate workaround. [a] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.10-rc5/source/kernel/dma/contiguous.c#L362 Regards, Bjorn > Thanks, > Prakash > > [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.10-rc5/source/kernel/dma/direct.c#L131 > >> > >> Regards, > >> Bjorn > >> > >>> However, DMA memory would have successful such case if > >>> padding is added to size to cross > PAGE_SIZE. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> From this I do find the behavior of dma_alloc unintuitive, do we know if > >>>> there's a reason for the "equal to PAGE_SIZE" case you describe here? > >>> > >>> I am not a memory expert but the reason i can think of could be, <= > >>> PAGE_SIZE can anyway possible to be requested outside DMA coherent api's > >>> with kmalloc and friends api and that could be the reason it is falling > >>> back to buddy pool in DMA api. > >>> > >>> -Mukesh > > > > >