Re: [PATCH v17 19/35] arch/mm: Export direct {un,}map functions

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On 26.02.24 18:27, Elliot Berman wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 12:53:48PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
On 26.02.24 12:06, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
The point is that we can't we just allow modules to unmap data from
the kernel mapping, no matter how noble your intentions are.

I absolutely agree.

Hi David and Chirstoph,

Are your preferences that we should make Gunyah builtin only or should add
fixing up S2 PTW errors (or something else)?

Having that built into the kernel certainly does sound better than exposing that functionality to arbitrary OOT modules. But still, this feels like it is using a "too-low-level" interface.

Also, do you extend that preference to modifying S2 mappings? This would
require any hypervisor driver that supports confidential compute
usecases to only ever be builtin.

Is your concern about unmapping data from kernel mapping, then module
being unloaded, and then having no way to recover the mapping? Would a
permanent module be better? The primary reason we were wanting to have
it as module was to avoid having driver in memory if you're not a Gunyah

What I didn't grasp from this patch description: is the area where a driver would unmap/remap that memory somehow known ahead of time and limited?

How would the driver obtain that memory it would try to unmap/remap the direct map of? Simply allocate some pages and then unmap the direct map?

For example, we do have mm/secretmem.c, where we unmap the directmap on allocation and remap when freeing a page. A nice abstraction on alloc/free, so one cannot really do a lot of harm.

Further, we enlightened the remainder of the system about secretmem, such that we can detect that the directmap is no longer there. As one example, see the secretmem_active() check in kernel/power/hibernate.c.

A similar abstraction would make sense (I remember a discussion about having secretmem functionality in guest_memfd, would that help?), but the question is "which" memory you want to unmap the direct map of, and how the driver became "owner" of that memory such that it would really be allowed to mess with the directmap.


David / dhildenb

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