On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 05:06:08PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 10:07 AM Bjorn Andersson
> <bjorn.andersson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri 29 Apr 11:10 CDT 2022, Doug Anderson wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:39:43PM +0530, Srinivasa Rao Mandadapu wrote:
> > > > > Add LPASS LPI pinctrl properties, which are required for Audio
> > > > > functionality on herobrine based platforms of rev5+
> > > > > (aka CRD 3.0/3.1) boards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Srinivasa Rao Mandadapu <quic_srivasam@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Co-developed-by: Venkata Prasad Potturu <quic_potturu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Venkata Prasad Potturu <quic_potturu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > > I'm not super firm in pinctrl territory, a few maybe silly questions
> > > > below.
> > > >
> > > > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc7280-herobrine-crd.dts | 84 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > 1 file changed, 84 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc7280-herobrine-crd.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc7280-herobrine-crd.dts
> > > > > index deaea3a..dfc42df 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc7280-herobrine-crd.dts
> > > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc7280-herobrine-crd.dts
> > > > > @@ -111,6 +111,90 @@ ap_ts_pen_1v8: &i2c13 {
> > > > > * - If a pin is not hooked up on Qcard, it gets no name.
> > > > > */
> > > > >
> > > > > +&lpass_dmic01 {
> > > > > + clk {
> > > > > + drive-strength = <8>;
> > > > > + };
> > >
> > > Ugh, I've been distracted and I hadn't realized we were back to the
> > > two-level syntax. Definitely not my favorite for all the reasons I
> > > talked about [1]. I guess you took Bjorn's silence to my response to
> > > mean that you should switch back to this way? :(
> > >
> > > Bjorn: can you clarify?
> > >
> >
> > I didn't think through the fact that &mi2s0_state was specified in the
> > .dtsi and as such will be partially be overridden by the baord dts.
> >
> >
> > I do prefer the two level style and describing full "states", but as you
> > say whenever we provide something that will have to be overwritten it's
> > suboptimal.
> >
> > As such, I think your flattened model is preferred in this case
>
> How about for future patches we just provided labels at both levels
> (I'm not suggesting we churn this patch series more):
>
> lpass_dmic01_sleep: dmic01-sleep {
is the outer label ('lpass_dmic01_sleep') actually needed if we don't
intend to replicate the hierarchy?
> lpass_dmic01_sleep_clk: clk {
> pins = "gpio6";
> function = "dmic1_clk";
> };
>
> lpass_dmic01_sleep_data: data {
> pins = "gpio7";
> function = "dmic1_data";
> };
> };
>
> Then you can in your pinctrl reference you can just reference the
> top-level node but boards can override without having to replicate
> hierarchy...
>
> > but it
> > makes me dislike the partial definition between the dtsi and dts even
> > more (but I don't have any better suggestion).
>
> One other proposal I'd make is that maybe we should change the rules
> about never putting drive strength in the soc.dtsi file. While it
> should still be OK for boards to override the drive strength, it seems
> like a whole lot of biolerplate code to have every board override
> every pin and say that its drive strength is 2. Similarly, if there's
> a high speed interface (like eMMC) where a drive strength of 2 is
> nonsense for any board, it doesn't seem ridiculous to specify a
> default drive strength of something higher in the soc.dtsi file.
Indeed, that could make sense.
> I would like to say the same thing goes for for pulls, but it's
> unfortunately uglier for pulls. :( For instance, nearly everyone has
> an external pullup for i2c busses. The strength of the pullup needs to
> be tuned for the i2c bus speed and the impedance of the line. Thus, it
> would ideally make sense to specify this in the soc.dtsi file.
> Unfortunately, if we do that and some board _wants_ to use the
> internal pulls (maybe they're running at a really low speed and/or
> forgot to add external pulls) then they have to do an ugly
> "/delete-property/ bias-disable" because adding the "bias-pull-up"
> doesn't delete the other property and you end up with both. :( That
> seems bad, so I guess I'd vote to keep banning bias definitions in the
> soc.dtsi file.
I agree, having to use 'delete-property' to change a pull setting
doesn't seem a good idea.
