Re: [PATCH v2] drm/msm: add trace_dma_fence_emit to msm_gpu_submit

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:20 AM Christian König
<christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Am 26.04.22 um 19:16 schrieb Rob Clark:
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:08 AM Christian König
> > <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Am 26.04.22 um 19:05 schrieb Rob Clark:
> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 9:42 AM Christian König
> >>> <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> Am 26.04.22 um 18:32 schrieb Chia-I Wu:
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 2:26 PM Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>> In practice, trace_dma_fence_init called from dma_fence_init is good
> >>>>>> enough and almost no driver calls trace_dma_fence_emit.  But drm_sched
> >>>>>> and virtio both have cases where trace_dma_fence_init and
> >>>>>> trace_dma_fence_emit can be apart.  It is easier for visualization tools
> >>>>>> to always use the more correct trace_dma_fence_emit when visualizing
> >>>>>> fence timelines.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> v2: improve commit message (Dmitry)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Cc: Rob Clark <robdclark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Reviewed-by: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> This has been reviewed.  Should we land it?
> >>>> No, there are still open discussions about it.
> >>> I think if it is needed for trace visualization, that is justification
> >>> enough for me
> >>>
> >>> I don't really see otherwise how a generic trace visualization tool
> >>> like perfetto would handle the case that some fence timelines have
> >>> separate events but others do not.
> >> Well I just send a patch to completely remove the trace point.
> >>
> >> As I said it absolutely doesn't make sense to use this for
> >> visualization, that's what the trace_dma_fence_init trace point is good for.
I am a bit confused by this.  _emit and _signaled are a great way to
see how many fences are pending from cpu's point of view.  How does
_emit make no sense and _init is good instead?

Or is this just that _init is good enough most of the time?  (More below)

> >>
> >> The only use case is for debugging the GPU scheduler and we should
> >> probably introduce a separate GPU scheduler specific trace point for
> >> this instead if we should ever need it.
> > Hmm, AFAIU from Chia-I, virtgpu has a separation of init and emit..
> > OTOH if using separate events in these special cases is better, then
> > I'm ok with that and can revert this patch.  Chia-I is more familiar
> > with the visualization end of it, so I'll let him comment on whether
> > that is a workable approach.
>
> Interesting, I wasn't aware of the virtgpu separation of init and emit.
>
> But yes if there is really an use case for tracing this time stamp as
> well then we should probably have that use case specific.
>
> I just looked into the scheduler case a bit and found that even there we
> already have a different trace point for it, which is probably the
> reason why we never used trace_dma_fence_emit there.
Yeah, I am using drm_sched tracepoints in that case.
>
> So yes, there really isn't much reason I can see two have two separate
> trace points for every driver.
That sounds fair.  In any tool, it should be easy to see if a fence
timeline has _emit in addition to _init, and adapt accordingly.  We
can drop this patch.

A clarification that _emit is optional/redundant for most fence
timelines should be nicer than removing it though.

>
> Christian.
>
> >
> > BR,
> > -R
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Christian.
> >>
> >>> BR,
> >>> -R
> >>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Christian.
> >>>>
> >>>>> (Or, how do I check if it has landed?)
>




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