On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 02:56:56PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote: > On 2022-04-05 17:16, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > vdpa and usnic are trying to test if IOMMU_CACHE is supported. The correct > > way to do this is via dev_is_dma_coherent() > > Not necessarily... > > Disregarding the complete disaster of PCIe No Snoop on Arm-Based systems, > there's the more interesting effectively-opposite scenario where an SMMU > bridges non-coherent devices to a coherent interconnect. It's not something > we take advantage of yet in Linux, and it can only be properly described in > ACPI, but there do exist situations where IOMMU_CACHE is capable of making > the device's traffic snoop, but dev_is_dma_coherent() - and > device_get_dma_attr() for external users - would still say non-coherent > because they can't assume that the SMMU is enabled and programmed in just > the right way. Oh, I didn't know about device_get_dma_attr().. Considering your future issue, maybe this: /* * true if the given domain supports IOMMU_CACHE and when dev is attached to * that domain it will have coherent DMA and require no cache * maintenance when IOMMU_CACHE is used. */ bool iommu_domain_supports_coherent_dma(struct iommu_domain *domain, struct device *dev) { return device_get_dma_attr(dev) == DEV_DMA_COHERENT; } ? In future it could become a domain op and the SMMU driver could figure out the situation you described? Jason