On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:27 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Daniel Walker wrote: > > > > Don't forget about this one! Or was something wrong with it? > > I got a bit frustrated with ten different ARM pulls per day at one point. > > There's something wrong with ARM development. The amount of pure noise in > the patches is incredibly annoying. Right now, ARM is already (despite me > not reacting to some of the flood) 55% of all arch/ changes since 2.6.34, > and it's all pointless churn in > > arch/arm/configs/ > arch/arm/mach-xyz > arch/arm/plat-blah > > and at a certain point in the merge window I simply could not find it in > me to care about it any more. > > Do you guys at all talk about this problem? Have any of the ARM people > bothered to look at the arch/arm diffs and see how mind-deadening they > are? I try to look through these kinds of things when I pull, but after a > million lines of pure noise, it gets old pretty quickly. There's room for the sub-architectures to combine stuff. I think there is work going on to do that (at some level). > Somehow, I can't believe that you need thousands of lines for each random > arch/arm/mach-xyz (yeah, some very few of them are smaller). I'm not an authority by any means, but every time there is a new device released (which is often) you get a new file under some mach-xyz directory, or some large modification to an already existing file. Plus a config file potentially. It's a little bit like the wild west, and seems way wilder than x86 every was. I think from the sub-architecture maintainer perspective the pain is all hidden behind the Linus curtain , or RMK curtain or the some other maintainer curtain. So we don't really talk about it that often. I thought you we're totally happy with the situation .. If you have some idea's for fixing things, I'm all ears along with my faithful sub-architecture maintainer brothers. Daniel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arm-msm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html