Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model: Document herd7 (internal) representation

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Am 5/29/2024 um 4:24 PM schrieb Alan Stern:
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 04:17:36PM +0200, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:


Am 5/29/2024 um 4:07 PM schrieb Alan Stern:
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 02:37:30PM +0200, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
Given herd's other syntactic limitations, perhaps the best way would be to
introduce these macros as

	x = cmpxchg(...) {
		__fence{mb-successful-rmw};
   		x = __cmpxchg{once}(...);
   		__fence{mb-successful-rmw};
	}

since I think x = M(...) is the only way we are allowed to use these macros
anyways.

If we did this, how would the .cat file know to ignore the fence events
when the cmpxchg() fails?  It doesn't look like there's anything to
connect the two of them.

Adding the MB tag to the cmpxchg itself seems like the only way forward.

Alan

Something along these lines:

   Mb = Mb | Mb-successful-rmw & (domain((po\(po;po));rmw) |
range(rmw;(po\(po;po)))

i.e., using the fact that these mb-successful-rmw fences must appear
directly next to a possibly failing rmw, and looking for successful rmw
directly around them.

I suppose we have to distinguish between the before- and after- fences
though to make it work for cases like

xchg_release();
cmpxchg(); // fails


                 __xchg_release(...); // is an rmw
  		__fence{mb-successful-rmw}; // wrong takes mb semantics
    		x = __cmpxchg{once}(...); // fails
    		__fence{mb-successful-rmw};


So that would leave us with

  	x = cmpxchg(...) {
  		__fence{mb-before-successful-rmw};
    		x = __cmpxchg{once}(...);
    		__fence{mb-after-successful-rmw};
  	}

and in .cat/.bell:

   Mb = Mb | Mb-before-successful-rmw & domain((po\(po;po));rmw) |
Mb-after-successful-rmw & range(rmw;(po\(po;po)))

It's messy.  Associating the fences directly with the RMW event(s) by
adding the MB tags is much cleaner, IMO.

I agree.

Also, does the syntax you are proposing require changes to herd7?  I'm
not aware that it is currently able to parse that kind of definition.

Indeed, herd7 can't deal with this syntax right now.

   jonas





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