On Tue, 04 Jul 2023, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 03:20:31PM -0400, Olivier Dion wrote: [...] >> On x86-64 (gcc 13.1 -O2) we get: >> >> t0(): >> movl $1, x(%rip) >> movl $1, %eax >> xchgl dummy(%rip), %eax >> lock orq $0, (%rsp) ;; Redundant with previous exchange. >> movl y(%rip), %eax >> movl %eax, r0(%rip) >> ret >> t1(): >> movl $1, y(%rip) >> lock orq $0, (%rsp) >> movl x(%rip), %eax >> movl %eax, r1(%rip) >> ret > > So I would expect the compilers to do better here. It should know those > __atomic_thread_fence() thingies are superfluous and simply not emit > them. This could even be done as a peephole pass later, where it sees > consecutive atomic ops and the second being a no-op. Indeed, a peephole optimization could work for this Dekker, if the compiler adds the pattern for it. However, AFAIK, a peephole can not be applied when the two fences are in different basic blocks. For example, only emitting a fence on a compare_exchange success. This limitation implies that the optimization can not be done across functions/modules (shared libraries). For example, it would be interesting to be able to promote an acquire fence of a pthread_mutex_lock() to a full fence on weakly ordered architectures while preventing a redundant fence on strongly ordered architectures. We know that at least Clang has such peephole optimizations for some architecture backends. It seems however that they do not recognize lock-prefixed instructions as fence. AFAIK, GCC does not have that kind of optimization. We are also aware that some research has been done on this topic [0]. The idea is to use PRE for elimiation of redundant fences. This would work across multiple basic blocks, although the paper focus on intra-procedural eliminations. However, it seems that the latest work on that [1] has never been completed [2]. Our proposed approach provides a mean for the user to express -- and document -- the wanted semantic in the source code. This allows the compiler to only emit wanted fences, therefore not relying on architecture specific backend optimizations. In other words, this applies even on unoptimized binaries. [...] Thanks, Olivier [0] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3033019.3033021 [1] https://discourse.llvm.org/t/fence-elimination-pass-proposal/33679 [2] https://reviews.llvm.org/D5758 -- Olivier Dion EfficiOS Inc. https://www.efficios.com