On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 12:43 AM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 22:06, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > <glaubitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hello Ard! > > > > > Can I take that as an ack on [0]? The EFI subsystem has evolved > > > substantially over the years, and there is really no way to do any > > > IA64 testing beyond build testing, so from that perspective, dropping > > > it entirely would be welcomed. > > > > ia64 is regularly tested in Debian and Gentoo [1][2]. > > > > Debian's ia64 porterbox yttrium runs a recent kernel without issues: > > > > root@yttrium:~# uname -a > > Linux yttrium 5.19.0-2-mckinley #1 SMP Debian 5.19.11-1 (2022-09-24) ia64 GNU/Linux > > root@yttrium:~# > > > > root@yttrium:~# journalctl -b|head -n10 > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: Linux version 5.19.0-2-mckinley (debian-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc-11 (Debian 11.3.0-6) 11.3.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.39) #1 SMP Debian 5.19.11-1 (2022-09-24) > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: efi: EFI v2.10 by HP > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: efi: SALsystab=0xdfdd63a18 ESI=0xdfdd63f18 ACPI 2.0=0x3d3c4014 HCDP=0xdffff8798 SMBIOS=0x3d368000 > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: PCDP: v3 at 0xdffff8798 > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: earlycon: uart8250 at I/O port 0x4000 (options '115200n8') > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: printk: bootconsole [uart8250] enabled > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: ACPI: Early table checksum verification disabled > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: ACPI: RSDP 0x000000003D3C4014 000024 (v02 HP ) > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: ACPI: XSDT 0x000000003D3C4580 000124 (v01 HP RX2800-2 00000001 01000013) > > Nov 14 14:46:10 yttrium kernel: ACPI: FACP 0x000000003D3BE000 0000F4 (v03 HP RX2800-2 00000001 HP 00000001) > > root@yttrium:~# > > > > Same applies to the buildds: > > > > root@lifshitz:~# uname -a > > Linux lifshitz 6.0.0-4-mckinley #1 SMP Debian 6.0.8-1 (2022-11-11) ia64 GNU/Linux > > root@lifshitz:~# > > > > root@lenz:~# uname -a > > Linux lenz 6.0.0-4-mckinley #1 SMP Debian 6.0.8-1 (2022-11-11) ia64 GNU/Linux > > root@lenz:~# > > > > EFI works fine as well using the latest version of GRUB2. > > > > Thanks, > > Adrian > > > > > [1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/ > > > [2] https://mirror.yandex.ru/gentoo-distfiles//releases/ia64/autobuilds/ > > Thanks for reporting back. I (mis)read the debian ports page [3], > which mentions Debian 7 as the highest Debian version that supports > IA64, and so I assumed that support had been dropped from Debian. > > However, if only a handful of people want to keep this port alive for > reasons of nostalgia, it is obviously obsolete, and we should ask > ourselves whether it is reasonable to expect Linux contributors to > keep spending time on this. > > Does the Debian ia64 port have any users? Or is the system that builds > the packages the only one that consumes them? > > > [3] https://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ I have no IA64 hardware or be a user of it or have any strong feelings to keep this arch in the Linux-kernel. But I am a Debianist (Debian/unstable AMD64 user). Best is to ask the Debian release-team or (if there exist) maintainers or responsibles for the IA64 port - which is an ***unofficial*** port. What I found... on <cdimage.debian.org>: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ > Ports https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current-debian-installer/ia64/debian-installer-images_20211020_ia64.tar.gz ^^ Last modified: 2021-10-20 22:52 https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/debian-11.0.0-ia64-NETINST-1.iso ^^ Last modofied: 2022-03-28 14:18 With a net-install image you should be able to setup and explore the IA64 Debian cosmos. Example #1: binutils packages Checking available binutils package for Debian/unstable IA64 (version: 2.39.90.20230110-1): https://packages.debian.org/sid/binutils <--- Clearly states IA64 as "unofficial port" https://packages.debian.org/sid/ia64/binutils/filelist Example #2: linux-image packages Cannot say what this means... https://packages.debian.org/search?arch=amd64&keywords=linux-image (AMD64 - matches) https://packages.debian.org/search?arch=ia64&keywords=linux-image (IA64 - no matches) https://packages.debian.org/search?arch=ia64&keywords=linux (IA64 - matches - but no linux-image which ships normally a bootable Linux-kernel) As stated I have no expertise in Debian whatever release for IA64 arch. Hope that helps. -Sedat-
