Hi all, I have been confused by explanation.txt's definition of control dependencies: > Finally, a read event and another memory access event are linked by a > control dependency if the value obtained by the read affects whether > the second event is executed at all. I'll go into the following: ==== 1. "At all", to me, is misleading 1.1 The code which confused me 1.2 The traditional definition via post-dominance doesn't work either 2. Solution ==== 1. "At all", to me, is misleading: "At all" to me suggests a question for which we require a definitive "yes" or "no" answer: given a programme and an input, can a certain piece of code be executed? Can we always answer this this question? Doesn't this sound similar to the halting problem? 1.1 The Example which confused me: For the dependency checker project [1], I've been thinking about tracking dependency chains in code, and I stumbled upon the following edge case, which made me question the "at all" part of the current definition. The below C-code is derived from some optimised kernel code in LLVM intermediate representation (IR) I encountered: > int *x, *y; > > int foo() > { > /* More code */ > > loop: > /* More code */ > > if(READ_ONCE(x)) { > WRITE_ONCE(y, 42); > return 0; > } > > /* More code */ > > goto loop; > > /* More code */ > } Assuming that foo() will return, the READ_ONCE() does not determine whether the WRITE_ONCE() will be executed __at all__, as it will be executed exactly when the function returns, instead, it determines __when__ the WRITE_ONCE() will be executed. 1.2. The definition via post-dominance doesn't work either: I have seen control dependencies being defined in terms of the first basic block that post-dominates the basic block of the if-condition, that is the first basic block control flow must take to reach the function return regardless of what the if condition returned. E.g. [2] defines control dependencies as follows: > A statement y is said to be control dependent on another statement x > if (1) there exists a nontrivial path from x to y such that every > statement z != x in the path is post-dominated by y, and (2) x is not > post-dominated by y. Again, this definition doesn't work for the example above. As the basic block of the if branch trivially post-dominates any other basic block, because it contains the function return. 2. Solution: The definition I came up with instead is the following: > A basic block B is control-dependent on a basic block A if > B is reachable from A, but control flow can take a path through A > which avoids B. The scope of a control dependency ends at the first > basic block where all control flow paths running through A meet. Note that this allows control dependencies to remain "unresolved". I'm happy to submit a patch which covers more of what I mentioned above as part of explanation.txt, but figured that in the spirit of keeping things simple, leaving out "at all" might be enough? What do you think? Many thanks, Paul [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/Yk7%2FT8BJITwz+Og1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local/T/#u [2]: Optimizing Compilers for Modern Architectures: A Dependence-Based Approach, Randy Allen, Ken Kennedy, 2002, p. 350 Signed-off-by: Paul Heidekrüger <paul.heidekrueger@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Marco Elver <elver@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Charalampos Mainas <charalampos.mainas@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Pramod Bhatotia <pramod.bhatotia@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Soham Chakraborty <s.s.chakraborty@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Martin Fink <martin.fink@xxxxxxxxx> --- tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt index ee819a402b69..42af7ed91313 100644 --- a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt +++ b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt @@ -466,7 +466,7 @@ pointer. Finally, a read event and another memory access event are linked by a control dependency if the value obtained by the read affects whether -the second event is executed at all. Simple example: +the second event is executed. Simple example: int x, y; -- 2.35.1