On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 1:31 PM Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > * Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I tried to avoid as many low level headers as possible from the main > > > types headers - and the get_order() functionality also brings in bitops > > > definitions, which I'm still hoping to be able to reduce from its > > > current ~95% utilization in a distro kernel ... > > > > Agreed, I think reducing bitops.h and atomic.h usage is fairly important, > > I think these are even bigger on arm64 than on x86. > > So what I'm using for 'header complexity metrics' is rather simple: passing > -P -H to the preprocessor: stripping comments & not generating > line-markers, and then counting linecount. > > Line-markers should *probably* remain, because the real build is generatinginclude/linux/mm_page_address.h > them too - but I wanted to gain a crude & easily available metric to > measure 'first-pass parsing complexity'. That's I think where most of the > header bloat is concentrated: later passes don't really get any of the > unused header definitions passed along. (But maybe this is an invalid > assumption, because compiler warnings do get generated by later passes, and > they are generated for mostly-unused header inlines too.) > > If we include comments & line-markers then the bloat goes up by another > ~2x: > > kepler:~/mingo.tip.git> ./st include/linux/sched.h > #include <linux/sched.h> | LOC: 2,186 | headers: 118 > kepler:~/mingo.tip.git> ./st include/linux/sched.h > #include <linux/sched.h> | LOC: 4,092 | headers: 0 The metric I've been focusing on is bytes of the preprocessed header, which is more sensitive to function definitions that get generated from macros, and I multiply this by the number of inclusions (from scanning the .file.o.cmd files). It probably helps to have a couple of metrics and look at all of them occasionally to not miss something important. In the meantime, I have made some progress on reducing the headers for arm64, on top of your tree from Jan 8, but I have not looked at later changes from your side, and I need to work on this a bit more to ensure this doesn't break other architectures. For an arm64 allmodconfig build, my additional improvements on top of yours are significant but not as good as I had hoped for, this can still improve I hope: 5.16-rc8-vanilla 32640 seconds user, 3286 seconds sys 5.16-rc8-mingo 22990 seconds user, 2304 seconds sys 5.16-rc8-arnd 19007 seconds user, 1853 seconds sys As my tree builds any randconfig cleanly, I keep looking at different configs and find that this has a big impact, some options end up eliminating most of the benefits until I add further changes to clean up certain files. This happened with kasan, kprobes, and lse-atomics for instance. After eliminating all circular includes, I was also able to revisit my old script to visualize the inclusions, see[1] for the current arm64 defconfig output. This version uses my arbitrary metric as font-size, and uses labels for the number of inclusions. Arnd [1] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wbs252I8LyswscBAeV3SpjBG2AGoBnB8/view?usp=sharing