Re: [PATCH v26 0/9] Control-flow Enforcement: Indirect Branch Tracking

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On 4/28/2021 8:14 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 7:57 AM H.J. Lu <hjl.tools@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 7:52 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 7:48 AM David Laight <David.Laight@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Yu-cheng Yu
Sent: 27 April 2021 21:47

Control-flow Enforcement (CET) is a new Intel processor feature that blocks
return/jump-oriented programming attacks.  Details are in "Intel 64 and
IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual" [1].
...

Does this feature require that 'binary blobs' for out of tree drivers
be compiled by a version of gcc that adds the ENDBRA instructions?

David, do you mean kernel loadable drivers here? Do not worry about it for now, since shadow stack/ibt is not enabled for kernel-mode yet.


If enabled for userspace, what happens if an old .so is dynamically
loaded?

CET will be disabled by ld.so in this case.

What if a program starts a thread and then dlopens a legacy .so?


Or do all userspace programs and libraries have to have been compiled
with the ENDBRA instructions?

Correct.  ld and ld.so check this.

If you believe that the userspace tooling for the legacy IBT table
actually works, then it should just work.  Yu-cheng, etc: how well
tested is it?


Legacy IBT bitmap isn't unused since it doesn't cover legacy codes
generated by legacy JITs.


How does ld.so decide whether a legacy JIT is in use?


Let me clarify. IBT bitmap isn't used at all. How dlopen() works depends entirely on the tunable of glibc.cpu.x86_ibt. There are three values: on, off, permissive. On is always on, and off is always off, regardless of the .so having ibt or not. The default is "permissive," which turns off ibt upon dlopen a legacy .so. I hope this also answers Andy's question above.

Yu-cheng



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