On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 2:49 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:25:29AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > We might want to come up with a new version of asm-generic/uaccess.h > > that actually makes it easier to have a sane per-architecture > > implementation of the low-level accessors without set_fs(). > > > > I've added Christoph to Cc here, he probably has some ideas > > on where we should be heading. > > I think asm-generic/uaccess.h pretty much only makes sense for > nommu. For that case we can just kill the __{get,put}_user_fn > indirection. I actually have work for that in an old branch. > > Trying to use any of asm-generic/uaccess.h for MMU based kernel is > just asking for trouble. The one thing I'd like to see is a generic implementation of the outer bit that implements handling the variable-length arguments, there are so many ways that people have gotten that wrong in the past, and it would be nice if architectures only had to implement a set of fixed-size accessors that contain the architecture specific inline asm. There is now a new version for x86 that based on asm-goto with output, which should in theory provide a better implementation for any architecture when using gcc-11/clang-11 or higher. > > One noteworthy aspect is that almost nothing users the low-level > > __get_user()/__put_user() helpers any more outside of architecture > > specific code, so we may not need to have separate versions > > for much longer. > > Al has been trying to kill them off entirely for a while, and I hope > he'll eventually succeed. That being said the difference should be > that the __ versions just skip the access_ok, so having both is > fairly trivial to implement. That is the difference in the interface, but in some of architectures there is another difference in that the __ version is completely inlined while the normal version calls an external function. I could never quite figure out the reason for this difference. Arnd