Re: [PATCH] powerpc: select ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE

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Excerpts from Mathieu Desnoyers's message of July 9, 2020 12:12 am:
> ----- On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:17 AM, Nicholas Piggin npiggin@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
>> Excerpts from Mathieu Desnoyers's message of July 7, 2020 9:25 pm:
>>> ----- On Jul 7, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Nicholas Piggin npiggin@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> 
> [...]
>>>> I should actually change the comment for 64-bit because soft masked
>>>> interrupt replay is an interesting case. I thought it was okay (because
>>>> the IPI would cause a hard interrupt which does do the rfi) but that
>>>> should at least be written.
>>> 
>>> Yes.
>>> 
>>>> The context synchronisation happens before
>>>> the Linux IPI function is called, but for the purpose of membarrier I
>>>> think that is okay (the membarrier just needs to have caused a memory
>>>> barrier + context synchronistaion by the time it has done).
>>> 
>>> Can you point me to the code implementing this logic ?
>> 
>> It's mostly in arch/powerpc/kernel/exception-64s.S and
>> powerpc/kernel/irq.c, but a lot of asm so easier to explain.
>> 
>> When any Linux code does local_irq_disable(), we set interrupts as
>> software-masked in a per-cpu flag. When interrupts (including IPIs) come
>> in, the first thing we do is check that flag and if we are masked, then
>> record that the interrupt needs to be "replayed" in another per-cpu
>> flag. The interrupt handler then exits back using RFI (which is context
>> synchronising the CPU). Later, when the kernel code does
>> local_irq_enable(), it checks the replay flag to see if anything needs
>> to be done. At that point we basically just call the interrupt handler
>> code like a normal function, and when that returns there is no context
>> synchronising instruction.
> 
> AFAIU this can only happen for interrupts nesting over irqoff sections,
> therefore over kernel code, never userspace, right ?

Right.

>> So membarrier IPI will always cause target CPUs to perform a context
>> synchronising instruction, but sometimes it happens before the IPI
>> handler function runs.
> 
> If my understanding is correct, the replayed interrupt handler logic
> only nests over kernel code, which will eventually need to issue a
> context synchronizing instruction before returning to user-space.

Yes.

> All we care about is that starting from the membarrier, each core
> either:
> 
> - interrupt user-space to issue the context synchronizing instruction if
>   they were running userspace, or
> - _eventually_ issue a context synchronizing instruction before returning
>   to user-space if they were running kernel code.
> 
> So your earlier statement "the membarrier just needs to have caused a memory
> barrier + context synchronistaion by the time it has done" is not strictly
> correct: the context synchronizing instruction does not strictly need to
> happen on each core before membarrier returns. A similar line of thoughts
> can be followed for memory barriers.

Ah okay that makes it simpler, then no such speical comment is required 
for the powerpc specific interrupt handling.

Thanks,
Nick




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